The worlds most viewed and commented on climate oriented website had a hiccup yesterday. Guest Author Willis Eschenbach, who describes himself as “a reformed cowboy” decided that moderating his own thread on a contentious issue which he has strong views on was a good idea. Bad idea Willis – no cookies.
The purpose of the thread was manifold. Willis wanted to propagate his own view of the ‘greenhouse effect’ – the higher surface temperature of Earth than that calculated by an misapplication of the Stefan-Boltzmann radiation equation – which he believes is due to ‘greenhouse gases’ and their radiative properties. He also wanted to disprove the theses of Nikolov and Zeller, and Hans Jelbring, that this elevation in surface temperature is due principally to the gravitational compression of the near surface atmosphere. He attempted to do this with an argument by contradiction, which I contended failed due to it’s inapplicability to Jelbring’s argument.
Willis deleted my reply.
Before he did so, some other comments had already picked up on my rebuttal and supported it.
Willis deleted chunks of them too.
Then he started wholesale snipping of any replies disagreeing with him, replacing what people had written with the generic moderation note:
[SNIP: read the instructions. Elevator speeches and disproofs only. -w.]
Many of the snipped comments were copied onto this thread as the carnage continued, so claim your dead and repost at WUWT if you can.
At the Cowboy Corral, Willis gets to crap on at any length he likes, regaling people with insult and sneering derision, but they only get to meekly hand over a short list of on topic bullet points in return.
By 2.30am UK time, around 6.30 WUWT time, some level of sanity had returned, and Willis said that if he had overstepped the line, then he was sorry. The problem with this sort of apology of course, is that he clearly believes he didn’t. The snipping has resumed this morning. Willis remains unrepentant about censoring people’s views.
This is ironic, because the third major plank in Willis’ post was a blast directed at me, and the way I run the Talkshop. He was righteously angrified by the fact that I had decided to deny comment access to Joel Shore, a person well known in the climate blogosphere for his insistent and disruptive tactics in promoting his own views on ‘global warming’. My given reason at the time is documented here, along with all Joel’s comments backstage here at the Talkshop.
So as you can see, although I decided to prevent Joel disrupting the very productive gravity threads, I did try to offer compensation to him in the form of an offer of a guest post. Not good enough for Willis, who banned himself from further comment here in protest at my act of ‘censorship’. But in fact I haven’t censored anything by Joel or Willis, all their words are here for all to see.
This is very different to the situation at WUWT, where Willis cheerfully censors dissenting views.
My decision to prevent Joel Shore from commenting here was vindicated in a wry comment by Anthony Watts himself.
I’ve closed the other two threads on this subject since they were getting a bit ragged and Shore-worn, and directed everyone here to this thread.
So here’s the deal. If you want to say something about the interesting and as yet not fully assessed theories of Hans Jelbring or Nikolov and Zeller, then you are welcome to do so here, as long as you are not Joel Shore, or any of the other disruptive types who twist other peoples words in order to start a ruckus which overwhelms proper courteous scientific discourse. If you want to say anything about these interesting theories on WUWT, you’ll have to try to get it past Willis ‘Elevator speeches and disproofs only‘ Eschenbach. If you attempt that, be sure to save a copy of your comment so you can repost it here if the censor’s scissors get snippy. In fact leave a copy here on this thread for the record anyway, because I don’t censor courteously presented ideas or viewpoints from people who don’t act like three year olds who scream until people give in to them or leave.