Sun rediscovered by Nature

Posted: July 17, 2010 by tallbloke in solar system dynamics

A certain degree of bias towards atmospheric science has been detected in august publications such as ‘Nature’ over recent years. Maybe that imbalance is about to be redressed.

Nature will start accepting solar papers again
Sami Solanki
2 Jul 2010
Dear colleagues,
Some months ago we learnt from Hector Socas Navarro that Nature has stopped publishing solar papers because they produce too few citations. According to Nature’s astronomy editor, Leslie Sage, solar papers in Nature get cited less than one tenth as much as papers in other branches of astronomy (based upon a citation analysis they carried out in 2005). Since this number sounded extremely unlikely, Johannes Stecker and I did our own analysis and got rather different results: Solar papers published in Nature between 2000 and 2005 got cited nearly as often as astronomy papers, although it typically took longer before solar papers started getting heavily cited. After learning of this, Nature’s astronomy editor redid the analysis and obtained results consistent with ours. As a consequence, he has decided to revert to Nature’s original policy (prior to 2005) of publishing a few solar papers per year. With this e-mail I would like to pass on this information to the community.
This step cannot undo the damage already done to the field, but hopefully it will help to avoid further damage being done.
Sami Solanki
Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research

Comments
  1. As temperatures (actual and virtual) are getting colder, after “climate gate”, the all time real star, the Sun will be gradually replacing CO2 , the falsified and fabricated “star” in the media. It was the Sun, after all….as we all suspected from the beginning.

  2. tallbloke says:

    That’s why I’ve been spending all this time trying to understand how the sun behaves and why. And what it’s effects on Earth’s climate are. It’s the most interesting puzzle ever.

  3. The marvelous infrared picture of Andromeda showing all Suns electrically connected with their central most high Sun, says it all:
    http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap100219.html

  4. Tenuc says:

    Nice picture, Adolfo, thanks.

    No just suns which are connected, as this picture of the polar aurora on Jupiter shows.

    Solar scientists need to change their current thinking regarding plasma science and how their model works:-

    HT to Vuk for providing link to ‘Evolution of the Solar System’ by NASA – link to document here:-

    http://history.nasa.gov/SP-345/ch15.htm

    Lots to read, but worth the effort!

  5. K.Margiani says:

    You can understand very interesting information about prohibited astronomical knowledge.
    http://www.neutronrepulsion.ge/clip.rar
    http://www.neutronrepulsion.ge/Universe.html
    27. NEUTRON REPULSION AND EMBRYONIC PLANETS

    Click to access capter-(27).pdf

  6. johnnythelowery says:

    Dear Sami: Is it really this bad? Why would they have a beef against Solar papers? Why do you have to fight to be heard on Solar issues? What is their problem? Why did they get it so horribly wrong? I’m a layman and i’m coming to ‘appreciate’ the politics of science! Gordon Bennett. Unbelievable. Of course….as things are leaning to solar sources of warming, away from CO2, perhaps it makes sense. Well done. Good for you for perservering. Any answers to the above?

  7. Mike Haseler says:

    There is a famous headline run by a newspaper in the UK which claimed it won the election for the winning party.

    “It was the Sun what won it”

    … is there another headline in the making re solar affects on earth’s climate?

  8. aidey says:

    A reminder from NASA that we may not understand Sun-Earth interactions as well as we think we do:

    A Puzzling Collapse of Earth’s Upper Atmosphere
    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/15jul_thermosphere/

  9. tallbloke says:

    Mike, it is my belief that the Sun’s effect on Earth’s climate has been systematically underestimated, due to poor understanding of the Sun-Ocean-Cloud albedo interaction.

    Nir Shaviv has showed that the solar signal in temperature is amplified by effects on cloud albedo. My own calculations on the steric component of sea level rise show the effect is not only over the solar cycle, but multi-decadal, a lot of extra heat has been stored in the oceans since the 70’s.

    Coupled with the over-estimation of global temperature rise in the C20th demonstrated by Anthony Watts and others, I think it likely that a reassessment of the Sun’s influence in climate change will take place.

  10. tallbloke says:

    aidey, yes, there was a post on wattsupwiththat recently about that NASA article. It’s good to see the professionals admitting they don’t have all the answers. My own comment on that thread was to the effect that lumping all wavelengths into a single metric – TSI, makes our tools of analysis into blunt instruments.

  11. E O'Connor says:

    Fan-solar-tastic! 🙂

    Thanks to Oliver K Manuel for commenting on this post at CA.

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