Thunderbolts opens the door to the Electric Universe

Posted: August 5, 2010 by tallbloke in solar system dynamics

DAVE SMITH TO PRESENT THE ELECTRIC UNIVERSE LIVE

Saturday morning (US time), Dave Smith (brother of the late Carl Vale Smith) will present “An Introduction to Electric Universe Theory,” in conjunction with the Natural Philosophy Alliance. Dave is the managing editor of the Thunderblog page at Thunderbolts.info and has facilitated extensive liaison with scientists and others interested in the Electric Universe hypothesis.

The presentation will last two hours and will include plenty of time for questions and answers.

There are no special requirements or downloads needed to attend the conference, which is free and open to all. A live “chat” (keyboard style) will run concurrently with the presentation, and all attendees can use this function to pose questions or offer comments.

Those who have headsets with a microphone will be able to speak directly to both the presenter and audience during the Q&A phase.

FACT SHEET

When: Saturday, August 07, 7:00am US Pacific Time.
(New York, 10.00am; Sydney, midnight August 07/08)

Where: Just go to http://live.worldsci.org about 10 minutes before start time, to ensure a place. Places will be limited to the first 100 attendees. Once at the conference ‘room’ (this is an automatic process, room name is “dehilster”), just enter your name in the box and click OK, and you’ll be in.

First come first served, so don’t be late!

ABSTRACT:

The Standard Model of Cosmology is the name given to the generally accepted theory of the Universe, its origins, and the way it works. The model relies heavily on a hypothesized “Big Bang”, along with Einstein’s relativistic theories of gravity and light. For many decades scientific critics have raised objections to the Standard Model. It is often suggested that standard cosmology has replaced empirical evidence with mathematical abstractions that almost no one understands. This presentation will introduce participants to a well-researched alternative – Electric Universe theory. For this introduction, the presentation will be broad in scope and limited in technical detail, but will offer numerous pointers to the groundbreaking work of others in this field.

Comments
  1. standard cosmology has replaced empirical evidence with mathematical abstractions that almost no one understands.
    Allways suspect there is something wron when too difficult to understand. Either is politics or plain ignorance.

  2. Zeke the Sneak says:

    I am very much looking forward to this Electric Universe presentation by Dave Smith! I have enjoyed the gloves-off humor of his blogs, and he also has done extensive research on the tragic loss of the Space Shuttle Columbia:

    http://www.columbiadisaster.info/

    I am sorry about the loss of his brother Carl Smith.

  3. tallbloke says:

    I hope it’s interesting and informative for you Zeke. I will be out for the weekend clambering around on a four masted barque at the tall ships event in Hartlepool so I hope you’ll give us a detailed report, or a link to the archived session.

    Tim, I find some of Dave Talbotts stuff a bit far fetched too. However, he has been generous in assisting plasma physicists and Electrical guru Wal Thornhill get their stuff ‘on air’. Nascent paradigms attract a variety of individuals with various agendas and pet theories. It’s up to us to sort wheat from chaff, but I don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

  4. Tim Channon says:

    I expect we pretty much agree.

  5. Zeke the Sneak says:

    Thanks tallbloke, enjoy that tall ships event in Hartlepool.

    I’m sure we’d all like it if you throw up a few pictures of these four masted barques when you return. Next to the ’49 Matchless why not (-:

  6. Zeke the Sneak says:

    Tim Channon says:
    August 6, 2010 at 1:36 am
    Cross links
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Talbott

    Dave Talbott’s work is with world mythology. He examines myths, legends, petroglyphs and ancient near eastern texts and asks 1.) why are the gods of yore almost always associated with the planets? 2.) why do petroglyphs on every continent display exactly the same figures? 3.) why are “ages” ended by catastrophes, along with other themes, so ubiquitos in myths from all over the world?

    It may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but these are valid and interesting questions for a mythologist to persue, and he has done compelling and scholarly work.

    I will only say that such easy dismissal of the value of the oral legends of native peoples is an entirely natural response for most of us in our Western culture. We value our empirical and scientific perspectives and see these Native tales as quaint. Even the ancient Roman and Greek natural philosophers regarded popular myths as nonsense, with perhaps a grain of truth here and there.

    Yet in the 16th-18th century there were those who were interested in hearing what the Natives had to say, and so we have some record of myths and legends which would have been lost.

    And I will simply conclude with this: if anyone takes the time to listen to these traditional stories and deep memories from American Indians, Aborigines, Classical Gr and Roman mythology, etc., one will be surprised at the consistent presence of the lightning bolt, auroral type events, plasma formations, and other electrical phenonmena in these traditions. As I said, not for everyone, but I find oral traditions interesting.

    By the way, so did Georges Cuvier, the father of paleontology, along with Morgan, Croghan, and Thomas Jefferson.

  7. Tenuc says:

    Zeke the Sneak says:
    August 6, 2010 at 11:50 pm
    “…And I will simply conclude with this: if anyone takes the time to listen to these traditional stories and deep memories from American Indians, Aborigines, Classical Gr and Roman mythology, etc., one will be surprised at the consistent presence of the lightning bolt, auroral type events, plasma formations, and other electrical phenonmena in these traditions. As I said, not for everyone, but I find oral traditions interesting…”

    The oral tradition of passing information is the earliest and most secure method of passing information from one generation to the next and played a major role in the progress of mankind. Paper burns, rock tablets erode and clay tablets break, but information transferred by the spoken word will survive. The druids were the masters of this technique. Knowledge was coded into the poems, songs of the bards and astronomical knowledge was coded into large megalithic structures, which would survive the ravages of time.

    Unlocking this information is often the only way to know about events which happened in the distant past and this can provide clues about the possibilities for our future.

    We ignore it at our peril!

  8. Zeke the Sneak says:

    Tenuc says:
    The oral tradition of passing information is the earliest and most secure method of passing information from one generation to the next and played a major role in the progress of mankind. Paper burns, rock tablets erode and clay tablets break, but information transferred by the spoken word will survive.

    “You Yankees are born with a feather [quill] between your fingers; I have it written here. The Indian keeps his knowledge here! This is the book the Great Spirit gave him.”
    Senenca chief Red Jacket, 1812

    PS, Just to clarify, Dave Talbott does no work (that I am aware of) with prophecies regarding the future (-:

  9. Zeke the Sneak says:

    And women were usually the transmitters between generations, as tales, mithology also plays a role, if interpreted literally as Velikovsky did, not forgetting hieroglyphs, as the Tarot cards, a game and a book at the same time, to be perpetuated by gamblers.
    However, as gnosticism teaches, the direct contact with the “topos uranos” it´s always there waiting for us. Though difficult to attain, the process is facilitated by the “egregora”, the gathering of several seekers with a common purpose: Here it appears the known phenomenon of “resonance”where each of the parties can get much more than being alone. (call ít, if you wish, “brain storming”) or, more exactly, as Mesmer would have explained it: The reinforced magnetisms among the participants.

  10. tallbloke says:

    Zeke the Sneak says:
    August 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm (Edit)

    Thanks tallbloke, enjoy that tall ships event in Hartlepool.

    I’m sure we’d all like it if you throw up a few pictures of these four masted barques when you return. Next to the ’49 Matchless why not (-:

    Done! It was a fantastic experience. I love the sheer scale of those windpowered watercraft.

  11. Zeke the Sneak says:

    Nice pictures of those beautiful seafaring vessels from a more sensible time/”windpower you can believe in” (-:–thanks tallbloke.

    Dave Smith’s Electric Universe presentation was terrific and a good time was had by all; there was full attendance with people from all over the world.

    Highlights included:

    ~a brief history of plasma science and plasma pioneers including Kristian Birkeland and Hannes Alfven

    ~a quote on black holes from S. Chandrasekhar:

    “The black holes of nature are the most perfect macroscopic objects there are in the universe: the only elements in their construction are our concepts of space and time.”

    ~slides 43-53 compare planetary scarring with scarring produced by electrical discharge machining industrial processes; esp. the repeatedly found but highly unlikely crater chains; Olympus Mons is compared with an anode discharge in a laboratory; and other large scale platetary topographies are shown next to electrical discharges on an insulator–a striking resemblance!

    ~slide 55 Plasma scarring and Europa’s cycloids and rilles

    ~chat comments:

    David Talbott: The key to a perspective on planetary scarring is the earlier, more electrified phase of solar system history.

    David Talbott: One test anyone can apply. Check out the innumerable supposed collapsed lava tubes on Mars. No entrance to the lava tube cave can be found and no rubble from supposed roof collapse.

    ~slide 79: Deep Impact. NASA struck a comet with a copper projectile which produced brilliant flashes before impact, very fine particulates, and shifted the bright jets around; these and other more detailed results were successfully predicted by Electric Universe physicist Wal Thornhill

    and much more! This just in, Don Scott quickly joined the conversation to answer two questions and it is revealed that he and astronomer Mel Acheson are at philosophical laggerheads. This reporter feels sure those are some interesting emails.

    Policy recommendations: possible avenue for tallbloke, Robert Bateman, Geoff Sharp and others to make presentations on SSTs, SSN, and climate, and the Layman’s Sunspot Count. The live presentation worked well and is archived on the scientist’s page for later viewing.

    http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Scientists

    Thank you, Zeke

  12. tallbloke says:

    Zeke, thanks very much for the synopsis write up. I’ll check out the presentation when I have an hour. Thanks to the great input I’ve had on this blog I should be able to put together a coherent presentation at some point too.

  13. Dave Smith says:

    What a wonderfully open discussion in this age of blogs by trogs! Every now and then, a real gem pops up, and the “tallbloke” blog is obviously one not written by nor contributed to by said trogs. Well-done.

    Thanks for the kudos guys, the presentation was a smashing success, and I commend the NPA (Natural Philosophy Alliance) and WSD (World Science Database) for supplying such a venue to present material in a non-combative, open atmosphere.

    I would also recommend that those with serious ideas, hypotheses and theories register with the NPA and WSD. The video presentation platform is open to all members, and membership is free. There is a $30.00 annual fee for video conferences, but this is voluntary.

    If anyone here wants more information, or you would like me to enter you into the database, just drop me a line including your areas of interest and if you wish your contact details, and I’ll be happy to give folk a ring for further discussion. davesmith_auATplasmaresourcesDOTcom

    Cheers, Dave.

  14. tallbloke says:

    Dave,
    Welcome, and thanks for the kind words and your advice and offer of help. You may remember I contributed to Ray Tomes thread about planetary motion and solar cycles under the name ‘eclipse’ on your Thunderbolts site earlier this year. Ray has co-opted me onto the Cycles Research Institute management committee. I’ll pass you offer on to them too if I may.

    This blog, like your site, is all about emerging ideas.

  15. Zeke the Sneak says:

    Hope something comes of that!

    Adolfo G says: Here it appears the known phenomenon of “resonance”where each of the parties can get much more than being alone. (call ít, if you wish, “brain storming”) or, more exactly, as Mesmer would have explained it: The reinforced magnetisms among the participants.

    That is interesting that resonance does work.

  16. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Just remember, It’s much easier to make progress if your not concerned about who gets the credit. pg