Solar wind – Global electrical circuit interaction

Posted: September 2, 2010 by tallbloke in solar system dynamics

While serving as Program Director for Aeronomy at the National Science Foundation, Dr Brian Tinsley had the opportunity to discuss long-standing problems in atmospheric science with program directors in areas of meteorology. This led him to begin research on the centuries old question of the effects of changes in the sun on day-to-day weather, year-to year climate changes, and global warming on the century time scale. During the past 20 years he has published more than twenty papers on his developing theory of a mechanism for such effects.

Brian Tinsley - The Global Electrical Circuit

Brian Tinsley - The Global Electrical Circuit

Fig. 2. Schematic of a section through the global atmospheric electric circuit in the dawn–dusk magnetic meridian. The tropospheric and stratospheric column resistances at a given location are represented by T and S, with subscripts referring to equatorial, low, middle, high, and polar latitudes. The geometry is essentially plane-parallel, with only small changes in T due to changes in cosmic ray fluxes at low latitudes, but large changes in T and S due to cosmic ray and other energetic space particle fluxes at high latitudes. The variable solar wind generators affect Vi at high latitudes, and the variable electrified cloud generators affect Vi globally, and volcanic aerosols as well as the energetic particles affect T and S; with all acting together to modulate the ionosphere-earth current density Jz.

The theory involves the solar wind, as an alternative to the traditional view that changes in solar brightness were responsible. The solar wind is a highly conducting, extremely hot gas that blows from the sun outward over the earth. It impedes the flow of high energy cosmic ray particles coming in from the galaxy, and energizes high energy electrons in the earth’s radiation belts that precipitate into the atmosphere; both of these effects change the column conductivity between the ionosphere and the earth’s surface. The solar wind also changes the potential difference between the ionosphere and the earth in the polar cap regions. All three effects alter the ionosphere-earth current density (Jz) that is part of the global atmospheric electric circuit, and which flows down from the ionosphere to the surface and through clouds.

In the gradients of conductivity at boundaries of clouds and aerosol layers the current flow generates a changing potential gradient and a layer of space charge (unipolar charge) in accordance with Poisson’s equation. This charge is transferred from air ions to aerosol particles and to droplets, and allows much higher equilibrium charges to persist on aerosol particles or droplets than would be the case without Jz.

There are good correlations, on the day-to-day time scale, between the three solar wind – modulated inputs to Jz mentioned above and small changes in atmospheric temperature and dynamics. Dr. Tinsley has hypothesized that the atmospheric responses are due to changes in the electrical interactions between charged aerosol particles and droplets.

Dr Tinsley’s faculty webpage is at

  1. This approach goes directly to the causes of climate, of course details are lacking the modulating factors, as mentioned several times here, as planets, moon, and, closer to the ground: The interaction with the organic life on earth, as for example, trees that we use to “see” them upside down, being roots, below ground, as important as bows above it. Those who do not want to see these interactions should acknowledge that life is organized electricity and an organized cosmos is life.
    As to the climate link, hope Richard Holle and others will have much more to opine.

  2. Ulric Lyons says:

    There are good correlations, on a daily scale, between the solar wind speed, and large changes in surface temperature, particularly in winter.

  3. The higher temperatures, found in UHI, relates with the food chain, where plants build carbohydrates, sugars, etc. from the sunlight, then these are processed by animals, man among them, to be transformed in body temperature IR , and other derivatives, as posts in this blog, . Temperature is but one of the consequences of the processes happening on the earth.
    The above post points to a more general approach, that of electricity, or rather ENERGY interacting with the earth, we included.
    A vibrant and electrified solar system now being rediscovered more by instruments than by scientists, neglects the dead view of a “pebbles’ universe”, where solar systems are just gravity only driven round stones.

  4. vukcevic says:

    In principle there are number of objections one could make. I would just mention one or two. Atmosphere is generally a dielectric, except during an atmospheric electric discharge, when it becomes highly ionised and conductive.
    On one side there is conductive and charged ionosphere acting as a capacitor plate, on the other oceans end even more conductive lithosphere.
    The ionosphere currents will automatically induce equivalent ocean-lithosphere electric currents. This produces electrostatic pressure within the intermediary dielectric (an electrically over-tensioned capacitor will explode violently).
    Ergo: variation in the solar wind will unavoidably affect physical properties of atmosphere, which in final analysis may affect rate of oceans evaporation and the atmospheric vapour condensation.

  5. Electricity is a primary factor, light, heat are secondary.

  6. Ulric Lyons says:

    @Adolfo Giurfa says:
    September 2, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    “Electricity is a primary factor, light, heat are secondary.”

    One could get struck by lightning during the night, but not sunburn :O

  7. tallbloke says:

    Vukcevic, excellent analysis, thanks. The Solar wind is the key to several parts of the puzzle, both at the scale of the planetary effect on sunspot production, and the terrestrial scale of short term temperature deviations, as noted by Ulric here. If you are right about ocean evaporation rates, it affects long term ‘internal’ (!=) patterns too, through its effect on ocean heat-energy content.

    The Svalgaard and Baretto reconstructions of historical Solar wind speed disagree, though they both ostensibly use the same data. This needs investigating.

    Adolfo is right. The pebbles universe is obsolete.

  8. Ulric Lyons says:

    @tallbloke says:
    September 3, 2010 at 9:20 am

    “The Solar wind is the key to several parts of the puzzle, both at the scale of the planetary effect on sunspot production..”

    You can witness sunspot genesis very close to, or at, syzygies of Jupiter and individual Inferior planets, there is no indication that the solar wind as such, particularly its spiral form, has any thing to do with it.

  9. Ulric Lyons says:

    @Adolfo Giurfa says:
    September 2, 2010 at 9:40 pm

    “Electricity is a primary factor, light, heat are secondary.”

    So why does it get cold at nigh time?

  10. vukcevic says:

    tallbloke says: September 3, 2010 at 9:20 am
    If you are right about ocean evaporation rates…
    For a see water molecule to cross transit boundary between liquid and gaseous state sufficient kinetic energy is required.
    Two important factor here to be considered
    – the earth surface and ionosphere are ‘capacitor plates’, charge exchange mainly in polar regions (aurora) where evaporation is negligible, while most of evaporation takes place in the tropics, where two act as a capacitor or as NASA calls ‘leaky-condensor’ with 500KV electrical potential difference(with hydrosphere as negative plate).

    Any change at ionosphere end (due to solar wind) will be induced in the hydro/litho-sphere.

    – Sea water molecules are ions (due to salinity). Kinetic energy (required to cross evaporation boundary will be sum of two, energy due to heat (temperature) and energy acquired (or lost) due to the change in the electrostatic potential at the surface.

  11. Ulric Lyons says:
    September 3, 2010 at 10:59 am
    Though I referred to the Cosmos, the anode is below the horizon. The energy which pervades the universe is electricity, which in its transformations causes from light to life.

  12. Tenuc says:

    Adolfo Giurfa says:
    September 3, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    “The energy which pervades the universe is electricity, which in its transformations causes from light to life.

    Correct. Without electricity, life itself is impossible. It is the medium which organises and energises both action and though. Death is, perhaps, the ultimate short circuit?

  13. Tenuc says:
    September 8, 2010 at 10:07 pm
    If there is something left, perhaps some “reconnected” magnetic field could survive..
    As tradition tells: There are two gates to depart through: The Deva Loka, or gods´gate and the Asura Loka, the devils´gate.

  14. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Interesting circuit design. but I don’t see the capasitence of the atmosphere or the AC componet of the solar wind and rotating solar magnetic field. pg

  15. As I sat here watching the life ebb and flow of TS Igore, I had a realization of sorts.

    Planets have magnetospheres, that create aurora effects at the poles. The sun has a spheroid of solar wind effects extending to the heliopause, the leap of understanding flashed as I saw the possibility that it is simply the flexible, fluid, magnetosphere of the sun.

    It is just that the plasma floating in the outgoing solar wind are the conductive medium that they used to call the ether, but saw it as static and not moving. The speed, density, and localized flow patterns are influenced by the electromagnetic conductance of the whole set of mediums.

    The background galactic fields interacting with the heliopause also form an aurora effect on the forward side as the solar system as it moves through the galaxy. The slow long wave modulations of the coupling of the galactic wind as it passes through clouds of dust and gasses, will be affected by the electromagnetic conduction, density, and magnetic permeable content of said gas and dust clouds.

    If periods of time when the surrounding galactic clouds acted to defuse the galactic field strength away from the solar system in it’s travels, then the couplings into the sun from the outside influences, would allow the solar system to become fluidly balanced and the SSBC would be in the free fall condition Lief insists it is now.

    What if all of the things we know about the sun being affected by the mass and angular momentum, and the resultant interactions between the sun, solar wind, activity levels with sun spots, flares, and CME’s, being tied to the interactions of these effects, but as a product of the ongoing changes in the local galactic weather so to speak.

    This isolation of the solar magnetosphere, might then be the precipitator of the long periods of ice ages, any time the solar system moves through a cloud of ionized dust/gas that diffuses the magnetic fields around us.

    In the current mode as the changes in galactic field flux shifts, it varies the phase of power that drives particles into the heliopause, causing the aurora effects recently discovered on the leading edge of the heliopause. Just as currents are inducted into the atmosphere of the earth, in geomagnetic storms, that follow ion conduction paths on tidally perturbed air masses, to effect weather spots on the surface.

    So as the galactic fields drive the induction coupling into and through the solar system it alters the overall angular momentum content, that is transferred into to speed up the whole system, or out from the sun to slow down, through all of the conductive path ways out to the heliopause. The necessary transfers of angular momentum, in the resultant interactive changes between the planets, and their moons, take all five forms gravity, tidal, declinational orbital variances, electromagnetic, and it’s attendant homopolar induction results that run the LOD components as well as ion charge gradients across frontal boundaries.

    The compounding of the base cycles is modulated by the dynamics of the interactions of the multiple bodies in the solar system. If we just look at it from the “sun is the center” aspect, we miss all of the nuances of the drag and push of the long term galactic field changes. I would suggest a study of the properties of the solar system local neighborhood, in regard to gas/dust populations and polarization properties due to residual effects viewable due to conductance of large scale galactic fields. To better get a handle as to how soon we could really expect the next ice age to start up again if at all.

    Just because the sun’s orbit around the center of the galaxy, has in the past come into areas that are conducive to insulation from galactic field flux does not mean that it will always happen.

  16. Tenuc says:
    September 8, 2010 at 10:07 pm

    Adolfo Giurfa says:
    September 3, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    “The energy which pervades the universe is electricity, which in its transformations causes from light to life.

    Correct. Without electricity, life itself is impossible. It is the medium which organises and energises both action and though. Death is, perhaps, the ultimate short circuit?

    I see death as the complete loss of self regulation, and disease as the result of a lack of optimum self control or self regulation, having effects that lead to death if left unbalanced too long.

  17. tallbloke says:

    Hi Richard,
    some very interesting thoughts there. I wonder if the ice ages apparent regularity can give us any clues about the nature of the motion of the solar system WRT the galactic plane, or the rotation of the local cluster. Perhaps the Milankovitch cycles are responsible for the regular 100k and previous run of 40kyear glacial cycles, while the motion of the solar system through the galaxy and the varying interstellar cloud densities is on a longer timescale?

  18. Richard Holle says:
    September 11, 2010 at 1:07 pm
    Once more: “As above so below”, with all its analogies/correlations. BTW: Would it sound like a “C” note?

  19. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Richard; While I’m not sure of all of the details, I am certain that you are correct in the main. Now add the rotating magnetic field of the galactic core and you will have most of the necessary understanding. The Aether is the ocean that we travel through.

    There ain’t nothing in space, it is jammed packed full. pg

  20. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Richard; I tried to send you a message yesterday but it failed. I hope rog got his. My email provider Hughesnet has issues.

    Rog; use what I sent as you see fit. please forward to Richard. thank you. pg

    [reply] Will do. Cheers, Rog

  21. P.G.Sharrow, I got the email via Rog today, there is nothing in the body that I find inconsistent with what I have learned over the years working in electronics, from high power radio frequency transmitters, through biomedical lab equipment, and the whole range of business office electronics.

    The whole process of free electrons being driven on the leading edges of stellar winds, much the same as they leak out ahead of weather fronts to form the cirrus clouds, is key to understanding the repulsive effects of the large shells of free electrons surrounding stars at their heliopauses, that prevent collisions between stars as they swirl through the interstellar medium.

    If you have ever looked at ferro fluids, composed of minute grains of iron coated in films of oxalic acid then suspended in oils, and the properties of their use as lubricating fluids and seals contained by permanent magnetic fields, some of the studies that have looked at the physical properties of the field dispersion and focusing mechanisms and problems in development, give good insight into effects of rotating magnetic fields, and the strong self repulsion of the bits in the working fluids.

    I think that the dynamics of negative charge shell repulsion, play a very important part in dynamic interactions of stars making close approach to one another. What you sent agrees well with what the studies verify, as well as my personal experience, and you say it rather succinctly, thanks for the post.

    I rather like the part about the formation of neutrons from the compression of electron charge diameters;”As the charged shell gets near to the protons’ lack of charge they will mask and appear to be electro – static neutral, a +/- neutron and still charge negative to an adjoining proton”. The inverse lowering of pressure density would allow the neutron to disentangle releasing the quantum energy binding the charge together, that is see as the effects of gravity and inertia.

    If a process could be designed and controlled to not just release this part of the binding energy as is done in nuclear fission, but to convert all of the matter, in a hydrogen atom into pure electrostatic forces, tremendous power could be generated, and faster than light travel could become a reality, with little mass loss to the conveying vehicle.

    Richard Holle

  22. From working with high voltage focused beam klystrons amplifiers I know that it is difficult to force a stream of fast moving electrons into a beam with tighter than a 7 degree divergence angle, and from practice trying to tune the output of these 10 kilowatt focused currents the tighter the beam the lower the amount of modulation you can get to increase the intelligence component of the output signal.

    But the more the spread of the angle the greater the noise [mostly due to increases in spurious harmonics] and waste heat component becomes due to current loss to the tuning chambers. So the optimum power and resultant bandwidth was achieved by increasing the beam power tuning the cavities for best bandwidth, increase the power, repeat till bandwidth started to drop off and noise came up then back power off about 5% and re tune the cavities gives the most power and bandwidth with acceptably lower noise levels.

    In regard to cosmic phenomena about 7 degrees is the tightest you will see the jets that stream out both side of radio active galaxies. Changes in the strength of the magnetic focus produce waves of more or less open beams, with blobs and waves of turbulence generated when the magnetic containment fields are not stable.

    In many cases there is no beam output due to lower magnetic activity, due to an expansive opening of the greater inter galactic fields, just as we are seeing in micro scales with hurricane production, weak when expansive charge fields in effect, and intensifying wind speed and smaller eye with collapsing fields constricting energy into focus.

    We see this same effect with positive or lack of charge air movement in the production of tornadoes, during the spring charging effects when synod preconjunction enhanced.

    *needs to stop drinking a whole pot of coffee alone*

  23. P.G. Sharrow says:

    The creation of an EMF device to confuse inertia/mass has consumed my attention for many years. To that end, development of a greater understanding of the nature of matter and space is very necessary. 55years of study of the nature of electricity leads me to believe that this can be done. To that end, a test device based on a flat wound spiral tesla coil with perimeter coils is under construction to test the Idea of 3 dimensional high energy EMF confusion to disorganize the Aethers’ effects of mass/inertia.

    Your grasp of the effects on earth and weather greatly impress me. Once we can get a number of open minded investigators to accept a better way of looking at the universe the solution of many problems will be much easier. pg

  24. Richard Holle says:
    September 12, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    Some prefer to thing of “spin”(to the right or to the left- which politicians know better than us 🙂 -than of charges).
    I found an jewel in the internet: J.H.Nelson paper

  25. tallbloke says:

    You need to be careful with Nelson. His results aren’t as convincing as it first seems. It would be interesting to retry his experiment with alignments along the curve of the IMF though.

  26. Ulric Lyons says:

    tallbloke says:
    September 13, 2010 at 11:20 am

    You need to be careful with Nelson.

    Careful study of large solar flares shows that some occur at the pivotal point of alignments, and others may occur one to two solar rotations after a significant alignment. The ones that happened later, can be predicted by observing conditions say one rotation earlier, for the nascent regions activated by the alignment.
    The key to understanding why some happen later, is to do with whether the current configuration of all the bodies is causing augmented or diminished solar activity.
    So if a significant alignment occurs at a time of diminished activity, the activated regions on the Sun will not kick off fully until the collective configuration is determining augmented activity, often very close to one or two solar rotations later.
    This I would confirm, by noting higher surface temperatures at nearly all months with larger solar storm events, meaning in layman’s terms, they happen more when the weather here is hotter, like volcanoes do. This the important bit that Nelson missed.
    Nelson did though make some very good observations of `types` of configurations of the Inferior Planets that can give larger flare events, I am not aware of him considering Ceres though.