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Posted: December 24, 2011 by tchannon in Politics

Note: this is a post by Tim Channon, co-moderator. Please read the footnote.

The Register reported yesterday the subhead “Vast vats of info goodness”, all public funded research will be open access to all and enforced. (yeah right and I get to do awful headlines)

100 page report by BIS twins-1 Department of Business and Skills, for presentation to parliament.

I think these two are Cable and Willetts but as a non television user I’ve never seen them before.

Suppose they’ll do as a header picture. Hotties, err people vary. (beware humour)

How real is this? I suspect there are strings and wrinkles, always are.

Anyone who penetrates to gookspeak of the document please illuminate us.

“The Government will open up access to core public datasets on transport, weather and health,”

The MSN reported recently about access to personal health records, the sentence above completes “including giving individuals access to their online GP records by the end of this Parliament; ” (we already have access so this is little change, records are poor anyway, a long story)

This probably means little in the context of openness

  • The Government will provide up to £10 million over 5 years to establish an Open Data Institute to help industry exploit the opportunities created through the release of this data. The ODI will be developed by the Technology Strategy Board and will involve business and academic institutions;

I do not like this dire statement, suggests yet more bleeding of money for data we already paid for the collection.

  • The public sector both generates and holds vast quantities of data, through the research it funds and the services it delivers. Recent European Commission analysis suggested that the commercial value of public sector data in the UK could be around
    £16 billion per annum45 whilst citizen access to online personal information is expected to be worth up to £20 billion by 202046.

Then

  • Driving up standards and transparency in public services: giving individuals access to the information they need to help them make informed decisions and to ensure public services are accountable to service users and taxpayers.

And

  • We are already making progress on releasing the value of open data for both companies and consumers:
  • We recently published an Open Data consultation and in Spring 2012 will publish an Open Data White Paper;
  • We have established a Public Sector Transparency Board to support and challenge public sector bodies in the implementation of Open Data standards;
  • A new Open Government licence has made it easier for public service providers to publish data;

I hope this is good news.

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Tallbloke wanted this place renamed as the Talkshop, there are contributors. Over Christmas Tallbloke needs personal space so I am taking the Rozzer problem off the top, it can return next year. WUWT have dropped the pin-at-top. Please do not forget Tallbloke.

Quite possibly I will post some science based articles, back to discussion. Everyone is of course welcome and for this place the tone is collaborative, not combat.

My position is awkward. As co-administrator of the blog when the Russian link was posted (is completely spoofed, no clues) and obviously somehow connected I am in the frame, nothing can be done about that.

Comments
  1. markus says:

    I hope every (hic) blody haaves a happ (hic) New Chistmas and and don’t woory be (hic) (hic) happy. Merry Christmas. (hic).

  2. “by the end of this Parliament”

    Question is…by which _end_ of the Parliament?

  3. BTW…if FOIA will post next link on the web page linked here…will Norfolk Police seize its own PCs??

    [nice one maurizio]

  4. tchannon says:

    Political news this morning, an ouch but on Christmas Eve?

    Can’t resist, a his daftness photo Telegraph
    Very odd, Liberal Democrat have orange/yellow colours but he is wearing blue, Conservative colours (for the foriegn reader, Labour use red).

    Apparently also on the front page of the print version of The Times, the article that is.

    Silence from BBC radio news.

    And Press Association oddly reporting the Telegaph, so where did The Times pick it up? PA (might not work, via Google)
    There is another photo but is that really the same person?
    Note is in a motor car, has driving problems and yet for the rest of the population he is anti motor car.

    [edit]
    This gets better, a crazy news day, just noticed the BBC have a story up today having Huhne cricising the Conservatives
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16320011

    Meanwhile “Huhne a liability” says the Scotsman
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/letters/huhne_a_liability_1_2023799
    and what? anti-AGW “I cannot wait for them to tell us that to save the world from cooling we need to produce more greenhouse gases.”

    Looks like there is a long list of anti-Huhne, Labour are taking pops over AGW, weird because Liberal Democrats are hard AGW, have been for years, predating Labour on this one.

    Uh huh, since Clegg says the coalition is here to stay, one o’clock and all is well.

    Where can I buy more popcorn?

  5. Huhne is a small part of a huge mechanism intent on driving its own agenda, by all possible means including circumventing sovereign democracy. This newsletter from a UK MEP typifies the stance: http://tinyurl.com/c7wupuw

  6. tallbloke says:

    Tim, thanks for all you have done keeping up with things while my life has been spinning end over end. I was the person on duty that morning when ‘foia’ posted, you have nothing to be concerned about.

    I have bagged the domain name ‘thetalkshop.info’ as I said a few weeks ago. I’m undecided how to use it at the moment. I can pay wordpress to route it to this blog, or I can use my own domain provider to route www. requests here (will still reolve as tallbloke.wordpress.com) and route other requests to some hosting space where we can place material which can’t be uploaded to wordpress; e.g. word docs, spreadsheets etc. This way we can make more data publicly accessible. There, back on topic!

    All ideas welcome

  7. It doesn’t seem very clear if the data will be ‘free’ as in no payment or merely more readily accessed. Obviously data with commercial value should be paid for by businesses that will gain from it but surely individual taxpayers and most of academia should be able to access it for free?

    Tallbloke, you could have a blog front to thetalkshop.info but with links going to another server for data and documents. However, you might find you can do it all quite easily from a server with Joomla (http://joomla.co.uk/). Only a thought.

  8. Doug Proctor says:

    The Department of BS?

    A Christmas present, for sure.

  9. hro001 says:

    “The Government will open up access to core public datasets on transport, weather and health,” [emphasis added -hro]

    This is all well and good; but since “weather” is not “climate” (or so we’ve been told by the keepers of the gate) will this be used as yet another excuse for not releasing the any data that might reveal some inconvenient truths? [she asks somewhat skeptically]

  10. Tenuc says:

    Can’t see Cobblers and Witless giving away data that can disprove CAGW. It is almost certain we will only have access to the ‘sanitised’ data which has been cobbled together to prove a point. Strange how the satellite data diverges from the massaged thermometer record!