Archive for July, 2012

WUWT suspend about US temperature data

Posted: July 29, 2012 by tchannon in Blog, Uncategorized, weather

“A reanalysis of U.S. surface station temperatures has been performed using the recently WMO-approved Siting Classification System devised by METEO-France’s Michel Leroy. The new siting classification more accurately characterizes the quality of the location in terms of monitoring long-term spatially representative surface temperature trends. The new analysis demonstrates that reported 1979-2008 U.S. temperature trends are spuriously doubled, with 92% of that over-estimation resulting from erroneous NOAA adjustments of well-sited stations upward. The paper is the first to use the updated siting system which addresses USHCN siting issues and data adjustments.”

It’s a US issue, not terribly important to the rest of us.

I might comment later.

[update 31st] What I wrote above has produced an unintended reaction in comments. This was perplexing but I think I now realise my mistake, which was giving a  quick one liner without a reason or context, perhaps treading on international feelings as well. This was not intended.

I omitted to say what I took as a given: the work presented by Watts et al is very welcome and very likely excellent. I support any actions to move towards reality and truth. If you see this as not gushing please take as a combination of an unknown new work and a personal tendency to deadpan.

I also omitted to say why I think it is a US issue and will change nothing over here, meaning UK and Europe. Explaining poses a problem of length and completeness, so this is very incomplete.

A primary difference between the USA and Europe is the concept of free. With information this is nicely illustrated by UK data only available from overseas, often from the USA.

The US has wide public access to their meteorological data. In Europe the public have little if any access other than what is pushed by government. In the UK a lot more data is available commercially from government, they want money for goods we paid to collect. There is also availability to government itself and formal academia, often notionally charged using notional accounting. The US authorities do change for some data, primarily it seems when there is a significant delivery cost (example, very high resolution tidal data)

As a consequence of the above the US public have a far more accessible met. system where it is practical to see and address problems.

Also keep in mind that Europe and the USA are roughly the same size and population. This is where the federal Europe idea appears, where at the moment there are many countries but without a common federal overgoverment, where the EU gets accused of trying to take overall control. The EU apparatchik is extremely inaccessible and secretive. Those in the US need to note the small size of the UK:  “Area – comparative:  slightly smaller than Oregon” (CIA worldbook)

Finally, I see the whole “climate” problem as political and nothing to do with climate but about power and control by a secretive core which is cloaked inside the visible politicians. There a huge difference between the US States and much of the rest of the world, perhaps the US viewed as more genuinely of the people. Contrast with where the central state considers it owns, it controls with the people an annoying resource to be milked.

If I have upset anyone, sorry.

[/update 31st]

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WUWT does a crazy flip, shuts down

Posted: July 27, 2012 by tchannon in Blog

Sorry for the delay, many others knew earlier.

We have grand reason to speculate what is going on at WUWT which has been shut down by Anthony until Sunday when an announcement is going to be made. A major blog like that with many contributors and moderators?

[update]  reading Watts update and being similar in age (way I take his words) it looks more likely any announcement will be underwhelming unless the exact subject is your thing. [/update]

Immediately prior WUWT post which trails into speculation

One suggestion doing the rounds is FOIA has dropped the password or someone has cracked the archive. For that reason I am making a statement given FOIA dropped a link here late last year.

As of the time of posting there has been no FOIA contact here in any way shape or form, nothing. (unless Rog dropped in and deleted out of my sight which seems ridiculous)

I spoke to Rog earlier in the week, he is fine. Been away (nothing sinister and he’d warned me a little while ago) but now he has lots of other business he really ought to be doing so I am continuing to hold the fort.


Strikes me as slightly odd this happens at the same time as a crazy media-fest in England, taking most eyes off the ball, as well as the start of a weekend.



An unusual Talkshop article, we have readers around the world. There is a twist at the end, get bored of me, skip to the end.

“Radio Jackie is South West London’s original pirate radio station. The first broadcast was in March 1969 from a studio in Sutton and lasted for just 30 minutes. Within a short while Radio Jackie was on the air every Sunday giving a growing band of listeners their first taste of truly local radio. On 7 March 1972 a cassette recording of Radio Jackie was played in Parliament, during the committee stage of the Sound Broadcasting Bill, as an example of what local radio could be like.”

The end: Studio after radio regulatory authorities raid in 1985.

“Sadly, Radio Jackie was forced to close in February 1985 following a series of much publicised raids by the radio regulatory authorities. Hundreds of people filled the Radio Jackie studios and offices in Worcester Park for the emotional final programme. The station vowed then to continue campaigning for a local radio licence for South West London. However, the opportunity to return legally didn’t arise until 1996 when a new FM licence for South West London on 107.8MHz was advertised. Radio Jackie’s hopes of a return to the airwaves of South West London were dashed though, when the licence was awarded to another applicant: Thames Radio. So, it looked as though Radio Jackie would become simply a piece of British broadcasting history.”

A sad story.


Greenland cyclic surface melting moments

Posted: July 26, 2012 by tchannon in Analysis, Cycles, Dataset

A fuss over Greenland melting all over has erupted in recent days. Yesterday I had an idea looked, decided to say nothing. More fuss, so here it is.

I grabbed one of the Greenland ice core datasets, GISP2 in this case.

What I am doing is novel off the wall. Data GISP2 Visual Stratigraphy.

This gives a crude visual goodness on the presence of summer, “indication of summer observed”. My thinking here is a summer surface melt will either make a layer highly visible or mushed into invisible. Don’t care which.

A number 0 1 2.5 3 is not very useful, or is it? Wack it through a low pass since this is a valid form of modulation.


Item 1


This continues a look at commonality between dataset with a clear linkage on the annual cycle.


Figure 1

Figure 1 is part of the result of rework based on better knowledge.

Previously I posted about the annual cycle and LoD/sea ice. Some of what I wrote was wrong in detail, a risk with actually doing things rather than copying others.


nia-ra-2Tallbloke frequent poster and sometimes contributor Michele Casati often links to his Italian blog “New Ice Age”. A new article 18th July, second part in a series links back to Talkshop articles by Roger Andrews

Part one

Part two

(looks like altervista now picks up translation is needed and offers Google Translate, if it doesn’t, a link to Bing and Google are in the top menu here at the Talkshop)

Headline quote is here.


Solar Chord

Posted: July 19, 2012 by tchannon in Cycles, Gravity, Solar physics, solar system dynamics


A comment to an old thread by Howard Bailey in effect promoting his father’s web site correctly suggests the subject is of interest to Talkshop readers and very likely to Tallbloke. (co-moderator writes)

Comment here Interview with Ivanka Charvatova: Is climate change caused by solar inertial motion?

Promotion of a book and video? We are not commercial but this seems benign and will add more eyes.

Welcome to my Solar Chord Science Website (opens in new page)

In the menu there is a link to some information about the ideas presented.

The following image copied from the website is intriguing


h/t Bishop Hill and Steve McIntyre and Leo and …

“Norfolk Police Inquiry at East Anglia Ends
Jul 18, 2012 – 10:36 AM

Andrew Montford reports that the East Anglia police inquiry has closed. The police say that it was a hack, rather than a leak or inadvertent exposure, but did not provide details of why they arrived at that conclusion.”


“Climategate police inquiry closes
Jul 18, 2012
Climate: CRU

This just in from Norfolk Constabulary (H/T Leo H)”


Given the raid on Tallbloke Towers in relation to the whole thing, hmm…


This post is by the co-moderator and does not necessarily reflect the views of Tallbloke nor any other.

Image courtesy Wikipedia, one of a variety of shapes in an under researched subject,



Figure 1

The length of sunspot cycles is usually calculated by measuring peak to peak or trough to trough but this necessarily involves guessing the true min and max, an interpretation, as well as only providing a few spot figures.

An alternative exists in the field of signal processing where a contiguous figure for the period of a varying wave can be computed, called instantaneous frequency (in this case the reciprocal is more useful, the period).

I was going to explain in detail but Rog thought what I had written looked too complicated, fair comment. This is a cut down version, better than nothing.


Given Tallbloke’s support for the air ambulance service in Yorkshire a debate in the House of Commons 11th July 2012 is of considerable interest, mentioning Hammond and Yorkshire.

Previous post by Rog

He writes

“It’s a long story.

Back in 2006, while I was still flat on my broken back in a kevlar overcoat on my sofa, Richard ‘The Hamster’ Hammond had a go at breaking the ‘flying mile’ land speed record, in a jet powered car.




h/t to commenter Mark at WUWT who gave a link to a fascimile of the official report into the Fukishima nuclear accident.

[update] Users are having trouble accessing the report. On digging I discover the Japanese government complex at has a site wholly dedicated to the investigation. As of today only the executive summary and appendix are available.

English language site


Link to report at slideshare (opens in new window)


Solar white light flare revealed

Posted: July 8, 2012 by tchannon in solar system dynamics


Image produced by the author (Tim Channon) from the published pair of JAXA Hinode solar images for the paper. (click for full size)

Title: “G-band and Hard X-ray Emissions of the 2006 December 14 Flare Observed by Hinode/SOT and RHESSI” by Kyoko Watanabe (Institute of Space and Astronautical Science[ISAS], JAXA), Sam Krucker, Hugh Hudson (Space Science Laboratories, University of California, Berkeley), Toshifumi Shimizu (ISAS/JAXA), Satoshi Masuda (Nagoya University), Kiyoshi Ichimoto (Kyoto University)
The Astrophysical Journal, No.715, pp. 651-655, 2010.


Cuckoo time in energy

Posted: July 7, 2012 by tchannon in Energy

Over on suggestions Zeke a long time reader raised the matter of windmills as a subject.

I would welcome Zeke expanding.

As it happens WUWT have a post up pointing to a fairly sane article at the IEEE site

Some of of you will not know IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers). I was in an allied field for years but bodies like that tend to boil my blood, are too overbearing so I never seriously considered subscribing.

You want reality, don’t listen to Politicians or Scientists.