Carry On Greenpeace, balaclava and assault weapon toting FSB drop in from chopper

Posted: September 19, 2013 by tchannon in Politics, Uncategorized
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[UPDATE 6] 

Russian authorities on Thursday completed pressing piracy charges against all 30 people detained aboard a Greenpeace icebreaker that was used in a protest where activists attempted to climb up a Gazprom oil rig in the Arctic.

“The defendants pleaded not guilty and are currently refusing to give relevant testimony,” Russia’s Investigative Committee said on its website. Fourteen of the detainees were charged Wednesday and 16 on Thursday. They face up to 15 years in prison.

http://en.ria.ru/world/20131003/183927995/All-30-Aboard-Greenpeace-Ship-Charged-With-Piracy.html

I cannot find the claimed quote in English on the sledcom website.  (Russia’s Investigative Committee)
Perhaps it takes a few days for translations to be done.

[UPDATE 5]

Greenpeace are reported as telling “at least five of the detainees formally charged with piracy”
http://en.ria.ru/crime/20131002/183898415/Russia-Charges-Greenpeace-Activists-With-Piracy.html

Other news from the Russian outlet , may was well raise a smile, mentions Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia.
Huh? Never heard of it, real word. Although I once owned an ancient car carrying the number and yes it did disturb some people, never understood myself, just a random number. Neat though if you roll the car, help arrives.
Also an item on clowns everywhere, young biker riding through a Moscow metro station. Darwin invented photographs and video.

[UPDATE 4]

Court order granted, ship searched.
Some details of court sentences, seems to amount to holding for most and more serious for a few.
Putin reported stating didn’t thing was piracy but illegal.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130928/183813401/Russian-Investigators-Start-Inspection-of-Seized-Greenpeace-Ship.html

[UPDATE 3]

Greenpeace Activists Face 2 Months in Russian Jail Pending Charges

Seems things drag slowly in Russia, pending charges.  Story.

Putin remarked it perhaps wasn’t piracy but seems to be keeping out of things.

[UPDATE 2] “Russia Opens Piracy Case Against Greenpeace Arctic Activists”

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130924/183690383/Russia-Opens-Piracy-Case-Against-Greenpeace-Arctic-Activists.html

Website: The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation

“Criminal proceeding launched in assault at Prirazlomnaya oil rig”
http://en.sledcom.ru/actual/355701/
Good photo off the page.

[UPDATE 1]  “Russia to Investigate Seized Greenpeace Ship for Piracy”

The Arctic Sunrise icebreaker “is being towed because the captain refused to steer it,” a spokeswoman for the Murmansk Region branch of the border guard service told RIA Novosti. The ship is expected to arrive in Murmansk by Monday or Tuesday, she said.

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130920/183613536/Russia-Towing-Greenpeace-Ship-to-Port-for-Legal-Check.html
[UPDATE]
Yesterday
“Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) confirmed that the border guards had fired warning shots “due to the genuine threat to the security of the Russian oil and gas complex, and failure to obey a lawful order to stop illegal activity.” The coast guard fired warning shots from an AK-47 machine gun, the security service said, noting that the Greenpeace ship did not respond to the warning and that additional measures to stop the vessel were underway.”
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130918/183548105/Shots-Fired-in-Arctic-Over-Greenpeace-Protest-at-Oil-Rig.html

Today and breaking, a lot to be confirmed

“The armed men, believed to be Russian border guards, boarded the Arctic Sunrise icebreaker in international waters, Greenpeace said in a statement, adding that all 25 crew members had been forced into the mess hall at gunpoint and locked there.”
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130920/183600132/Greenpeace-Russia-Conflict-Grows-Into-Diplomatic-Spat-With-Guns.html

Apparently the vessel is being taken to Murmansk

My take on this is amusement, enviro hard men meet Russian bear.

And next?

In reality good relationships between Russia and other countries is in everyone’s interest. Louts sour relations for others.

Wonder how long Arctic Sunrise will remain in Murmansk?

Posted by Tim

Comments
  1. hunter says:

    I hope the Sunrise stays there until its bottom rusts out.

  2. Perhaps greenpeace will need a new ship to replace the Artic Sunrise if it has been impounded, might I suggest the ‘Reality Dawns’.

  3. tallbloke says:

    Hah! Excellent Lord B. Nearly as good as the inadvertantly aptly named ‘Herald of Free Enterprise’.

  4. tchannon says:

    Few days ago, maybe I missed it.

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/09/13/crew-filming-reality-tv-show-forced-to-cancel-trek-through-northwest-passage-on-jet-skis-after-costly-rescue/

    That lot had an encounter with the Russians pointing tubes at them. Told to go back across the Bering straight.

    Noted comments from locals about didn’t they look at weather forecasts and research the seasons, too late in the year to go up there.

  5. Graeme No.3 says:

    “boarded the Arctic Sunrise icebreaker in international waters, Greenpeace said in a statement”

    Given Greenpeace’s attitude to the truth this must mean their ship was in russian waters.

  6. Richard111 says:

    So Greenpeace has an icebreaker? Thought those guys were keen on polar bears.

  7. michael hart says:

    Let me guess. Greenpeace ice-breakers don’t use internal combustion engines, they just sailed it up there? lol.

    Also, to lose one ship might be an accident. Two looks like carelessness.

  8. A.D. Everard says:

    Hunter said it for me in the first comment. Maybe meeting an uncompromising response will see those hoons grow up a bit – Greenpeace and their ilk have it way too easy in the West.

  9. Joe Public says:

    “Wonder how long Arctic Sunrise will remain in Murmansk?”

    Sadly, longer than Rainbow Warrior remained afloat in Aukland.

  10. SayNoToFearmongers says:

    Great news! International antihumanitarian merchants of despair at last meet a government which doesn’t suck up to them. Good luck with that polar warming you’ve told us so much about, eh? Those gulags (aka polar bear larders) should be toasty-warm for the winter month ahead.

  11. Stephen Richards says:

    At last. Now do like us; the french, and blow the bottom out of the terrorist’s ship.

    The terrorists can then walk back across the ice that isn’t there. They should be fit and rested after their holiday in the Canary ilse.

  12. Peter Miller says:

    A few pointless little people, leading pointless little lives, have just had their couple of moments of media glory.

    I hope the Russians impound or sink their ship and make them walk all the way back to the West from Murmansk. That would be a very character building experience and that is obviously something these clowns desperately need.

    The Greenpeace politburo are doubtless happy as this stunt will doubtless ratchet up their cash flow.

  13. Sparks says:

    There was no one stopping them protesting, why didn’t they just anchor their ship at a safe distance and conduct a peaceful protest, wave a few banners or something, instead of getting aggressive and endangering lives like that. greenpeace, more like greenwar.

  14. tchannon says:

    UPDATED ARTICLE

    Arctic Sunrise under tow!

  15. Zeke says:

    Under Russian law, NGOs must file as foreign agents. Foreign agents who threaten oil and gas complexes, and fail to obey lawful orders to cease, should expect a legitimate security response.

    This is appropriate for these foreign funded, worthless “non-profit” activists, who come in to disrupt economies and industries.

    It is well known that NGOs do not represent the local people they claim to speak for, and they should legally be regarded as the foreign funded activists they really are.

  16. Zeke says:

    Is this foreign funded NGO, Greenpeace, really under the impression that people in Russia want to warm themselves with worthless wind turbines this winter, and pay twice as much for electricity and fuel, with added costs to everything else that that would bring?

    “The average and minimum temperatures differ among Russian regions. Winter is most severe in hinterland Yakutia … with the lowest temperature about −65°C (-85°F). In European Russia (west of the Ural mountains), where most battles were fought, the average winter temperature is rarely below −20°C (-4°F), but varies greatly: for example, temperatures in the winter of 2005/2006 fell to −20°C (-4°F) or −30°C (-22°F) in Moscow.”

    I think a winter in Murmansk Russia without fossil fuel powered electricity would be a sufficient sentence for the eco-activists aboard the Arctic Sunrise. When they survive that ordeal, they can explain how they are benefiting anyone with their heartless environmental goals of reducing fossil fuel use in one of the coldest regions of the world.

    Murmansk Russia Monthly Temps
    Average low °C (°F)
    −13
    (9) −12.8
    (9) −8.6
    (16.5) −3.8
    (25.2) 1.1
    (34) 5.7
    (42.3) 9.2
    (48.6) 8.0
    (46.4) 4.5
    (40.1) −0.4
    (31.3) −7.1
    (19.2) −11.2
    (11.8) −2.4
    (27.7)
    Record low °C (°F) −39.4
    (−38.9) −38.6
    (−37.5) −32.6
    (−26.7) −21.7
    (−7.1) −10.4
    (13.3) −2.5
    (27.5) 1.7
    (35.1) −2
    (28) −5.4
    (22.3) −21.2
    (−6.2) −30.5
    (−22.9) −35
    (−31) −39.4
    (−38.9)

  17. wayne says:

    Fantastic news! Even better than my hopeful dreams that that damn Greenpeace ice-breaker just sinking instead of chopping ice.

    Maybe Russia can put it to good use, and if they lock them all up for breaking laws… power to the Russians… do make their prison in the Arctic so they can enjoy their oco “warming”. And about the Arctic Sunrise icebreaker being claimed by Greenpeace to have been in international waters, meaningless to me, the Greenpeace organization is a habitual, but skillful and devious liar and maybe are about to get what they have deserved for a long, long time, one very hard slap.

  18. tchannon says:

    I like to keep an eye on important things out of mainstream news, too technical.

    The Russian long term plan is sell gas they do not need and use the money to build nuclear plants. This is fairly well documented. The west is disadvantaging itself against long game players, plenty of them.

    It includes in effect mobile plants serving populations in the coastal Arctic. AKADEMIK LOMONOSOV
    http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1815296

    An intend is as power exporter in the far east too, hydro, nuclear, fossil.

    Nuclear powered light metal smelting is another area.

    Read this to get up to speed but with caution, definite information needs a variety of sources.
    http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/Country-Profiles/Countries-O-S/Russia–Nuclear-Power

  19. tchannon says:

    Out of general interest…
    Some good grief photos and news items from the region of the far north.
    “BarentsObserver.com is an open internet news service, which offers daily updated news from and about the Barents Region and the Arctic. The site is run by the Norwegian Barents Secretariat in Kirkenes, Norway.”

    Stories here alien to me and maybe you, a different world.

    These things just get bigger, crazy. Not so long ago I watched activity at Felixstowe and that was handling larger and larger.
    http://barentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2013/08/first-container-ship-northern-sea-route-21-08

    Norwegians complaining about the state of the roads, which are now better in Russia. Odd, I thought Norway was rolling in money.
    Get the hair style.
    http://barentsobserver.com/en/society/2013/09/murmansk-spends-four-times-more-road-maintenance-finnmark-03-09

  20. Steve Richards says:

    Its a pity that the Russians do not partake in disseminating AIS signals.

    On http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ the closest moving vessels I can see today is in Kirkenes, Finland, a few hundred miles to the west of Murmansk.

    Otherwise we could have followed the towing of the greenpeace vessel from our desktops.

    I was watching the BBC news this morning, an interview with a greenpeace chap in London, he was visibly shocked that a nation state would protect a state asset from some obviously dangerous seamanship.

  21. Steve Richards says:

    Oops!, Finnmark in Norway, not Finland, sorry….

  22. mwhite says:

    They must have know what was going to happen? It’s the Russian arctic, not he North sea. What do you expect when you poke a lion with a stick?

    They’re either stupid, or perhaps they just like Siberia?

  23. mwhite says:

    Perhaps they’ll get a fine roughly in line with the value of the Arctic Sunrise icebreaker??

  24. michael hart says:

    If I was the company issuing insurance for Greenpeace ships, I wouldn’t be comfortable.

  25. Brian H says:

    Should have fired on them with bigger “tubes” than AK-47s.

  26. w.w.wygart says:

    What drives me crazy about Greenpeace and other ‘direct action’ activist organizations, is that in the name of ‘civil disobedience’ they demand complete impunity to violate the law they claim to be protesting, then they crawl behind some other law for protection from the legal consequences of their own actions.

    Originally, the purpose of civil disobedience was to get arrested and thrown into jail to make some kind of a point. The point of civil disobedience is to provoke the application of the law, voluntarily submit to the laws consequences and hope that public sympathy will inevitably lead to the righting of the original injustice. The inevitable jail sentences and fines were always understood to be a necessary part of the process.

    There being an obvious injustice that was detrimental to society as a whole was also crucial.

    The reason that civil disobedience has stopped working in many recent instances. is that the larger public realizes that a decrepit version of civil disobedience is being used as a tactic of civil war against them by groups that cannot, or will not, use legal or democratic means to advance their own agenda.

    This is just another example of one group of people trying to ‘uncivilly’ impose their wills upon everyone else – there is nothing democratic about it.

    W^3

  27. Haar haaar, avast ye land lubbers:

    Russian authorities say they plan to harshly prosecute almost 30 Greenpeace activists for protesting Arctic oil activities by gas giant Gazprom.

    Investigative Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin said on September 24 that all activists — regardless of citizenship — will be charged with organized piracy.

    If found guilty, they could face up to 15 years in jail.
    http://toryaardvark.com/2013/09/24/russians-charge-all-greenpeace-activists-on-arctic-sunrise-with-piracy/

  28. J Martin says:

    Looks like Greenpeace didn’t get their legal team to look into the possible downsides before embarking on their ‘poke the Russian bear with a stick’ venture.

    As others have remarked, the Russian legal system is not yet fully independent from state influence, so I would expect that some members of the crew will serve some Murmansk or gulag jail time. Russian prisons bare no comparison to western prisons.

    They misjudged this particular stunt. Still, since many Greenpeace activists have watermelon characteristics they should be at home in Murmansk and should welcome the chance to brush up on their communistic characteristics.

    удачи

    Good luck according to google translate, but I expect its wrong.

  29. J Martin says:

    A charge of piracy, even by the Russians own definition is clearly far fetched. If no damage was done and no financial losses suffered by the oil rig operators and no environmental damage done, they can only really be charged with trespass and inconveniencing the coastguard. But I’m not a lawyer.

  30. tgmccoy says:

    Years ago, about 1990 the Rainbow Warrior was dispatched to to protest a mineral exploration rig off the
    Southern Oregon coast. wife and I were walking of the area of the “Heads” of Port Orford when northward at sea, came this hideous Diesel engine nose,-from this decrepit old motorsailer. black and blue smoke was pouring out the exhaust. When visited by a local fisherman (who was run off by the Green Pi$$ers ) he noted an oily sheen on the water where it was anchored,by the way.
    Now as they rounded the Heads-off with the “D” sail and up with the mains-so the media could see them
    pull into port under sail….
    Frauds…

  31. johanna says:

    There are internationally agreed definitions of piracy, but countries are also free to have their own laws within their own territorial waters. Interestingly, the international laws at least don’t seem to cover structures such as oil and gas rigs, only “vessels” and aircraft. That seems like an anomaly in this day and age (unless they are now defined as vessels in international law).

    Anyway, illegal boarding is covered by the definition, as well as “criminal acts”.

    Bottom line: when the Coast Guard of any country asks you to something, defying them is going to end badly. When it is the Coast Guard of a country not known for its concern about the legal niceties, only extreme foolishness or hubris would impel somebody to give them the two finger salute.

    Greenpeace’s strategy of having a multinational crew in the hope that all the relevant governments will bend over backwards to protect their nationals might be misguided in this case. There are one or two Australians in the crew, and there has been no outpouring of public or government concern about them here so far.

  32. tchannon says:

    The crackling line of time passed by is now the 26th. Sculling around I see no new developments but did hear mention of Putin muttering about maybe overkill. Nothing on the Kremlin website http://eng.kremlin.ru/ ( did learn something new, long plans with Iceland and others about telecommunication cables across the ocean linking all bordering states)

    Maybe the ploy is scare the Green lot, see if they get it. Next time?

  33. johanna says:

    It’s interesting that there has been almost no coverage pf this in the MSM. It seems that editors have put it on the spike as boring, not worthy of space.

    Oh, for the good old days!

  34. tchannon says:

    [UPDATE] Now that’s a shame. Whether it is true remains to be seen.

  35. Roger Andrews says:

    “It’s interesting that there has been almost no coverage pf this in the MSM.”

    Try a Google News search. Dozens of MSM hits in the last 24 hours alone.

    But this is of course what Greenpeace wants. Publicity generates donations, and Greenpeace’s operating budget is $700,000 a day.

  36. tchannon says:

    I think there is more at work than the obvious.

    Consider how this plays with the west hand wringing over Syria, just the time to trot along cap in hand to the Russians, can we have our pests back please? Add Snowden. Add winter coming and no gas. Good few other things too.

  37. johanna says:

    Well, the Russians are keeping their options open, IMO. Why wouldn’t they?

    As I pointed out in my earlier comment, it is no accident that Greenpeace put 19 nationalities on the ship. What they don’t realise is that, in the hands of a ruthless crowd like the Russians, that means 19 opportunities to gain something from the countries of origin. Or perhaps they just don’t care.

    I’m not fussed about the photographer. All this “journalists are sacred” crap has been abused to the point of meaninglessness; that currency is utterly debased.

  38. tchannon says:

    [update] Minor story update

  39. tchannon says:

    [update] All 30 charged with piracy.

  40. tallbloke says:

    The Two Faces Of Greenpeace International’s Kumi Naidoo – From No Compromise To “Dialogue Is Paramount”By P Gosselin on 10. Oktober 2013

    It’s long been known that Greenpeace environmentalists are condescending, know-it-all activists, who believe to hold the moral high ground, to be the keepers of the truth.That sort of mindset has led Greenpeace activists to a false belief they are above the law, that their perceived law is supreme to everyone else’s. Time and again Greenpeace activists have been arrested for illegal activity only to be let go the next day. Unfortunately that ritual of always being set free almost immediately and knowing you have the full power of Greenpeace’s formidable legal team working tirelessly on your behalf have only emboldened Greenpeace activists. Now comes Russia.Slowly realizing that the situation this time is different, that his activists aren’t going to be walking out of their jail cells like heroes anytime soon, Greenpeace International director Kumi Naidoo is softening the tone. Compare earlier comments to those of today:

    Earlier comments from Naidoo before he realized the seriousness:- “…we believe that intensifying peaceful civil disobedience is not only ethically justifiable but morally necessary.”- …the world needs people who are “prepared to go to prison, put their lives on the line if necessary, in the struggle for climate justice and addressing the reality of runaway catastrophic climate change“. ;-
    “I make no apologies, by the way, the fact that we are morally and ethically having to break the law, because history teaches us,…”- Russian authorities are making “absurd accusations“.

    Now today, realizing that the situation has become very serious…-

    “They, we, Greenpeace, do not believe ourselves to be above the law. We are willing to face the consequences of what we did, as long as those consequences are within a nation’s criminal code as any reasonable person understands that code to be.”“- My own personal history as a young activist in the anti-apartheid movement has taught me that dialogue is paramount, that in the interests of finding a common understanding we must be willing to talk.”

    Suddenly he has stopped viewing Greenpeace as being above the law. Now he wants to engage in dialogue. Imagine that! –

    See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.nsXuDHqp.dpuf

  41. tchannon says:

    Unconfirmed report the Greenpeace vessel was carrying narcotics.

    This fits with the court order allowing search, apparently carried out without the co-operation of the Greenpeace captain.

    I assume whatever has been found was in the personal effects of the ~30 on board so it is not likely to be substantial or looking like trading.

    I assume the captain is responsible for what is on board as well as what those on board did.

    Rog is right to point out this is proving a lesson.

  42. Roger Andrews says:

    Charges reduced to “hooliganism”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24645300