Sea Level Plummeting At Fastest Rising Location On Earth

Posted: December 14, 2014 by tallbloke in solar system dynamics

How fast is the Pacific cooling? Pretty fast by the look of the sea level data.

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According to experts at the University of Colorado, sea level east of the Philippines is rising at about 15 mm/year. However, their own data shows sea level at that location falling 36 mm/year since late 2010.

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  1. oldbrew says:

    Could earthquakes make a difference? Three biggish ones (above 6.0) in that area this year.

  2. oldbrew says: December 14, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    “Could earthquakes make a difference? Three biggish ones (above 6.0) in that area this year.

    OB, just part of the Godly prime directive form a very bored GOD! Planetary engineers, create what I cannot understand, else I create better engineers!

  3. Joe Public says:


    I downloaded that link “”, but couldn’t open it.

    File types need a 3-character suffix.

  4. No Joe. File types are independent of name.

    It’s a “Unidata NetCDF”. Details from UCAR. The start of the file describes the format.

    Determining file type by filename (extension) is fraught with problems and is based on some of the worst assumptions.

  5. Joe Public says:

    @ Bernd Felsche

    Thanks, I stand corrected & have learnt something else today.

    OK ignore the last line of my 3:19 respone. But can anyone advise how to ‘read’ or access “”?

  6. tallbloke says:

    Joe: Try renaming it to .txt and see what it looks like when you open it. 198meg txt file might take a while to load, so if you have a linux box, run the ‘top’ command on it and look at the first few lines.

    Ask in comments over there and Steve might help.

  7. michael hart says:

    Is it a good place to be measuring sea level? I thought equatorial pacific areas were significantly affected by the water sloshing around during El Nino/La Nina events, causing wild variations at some locations.

  8. Joe Public says:

    Thanks for the suggestion, Rog.

    Tried it, & although it opened instantly (via OSX), all that was visible was ‘gobbledegook’, reams & reams of it. 😉

  9. Joe Public says:

    I have left a msg on Steven’s blog.

    I’m particularly interested about what has actually happened around Kwajalein Atoll, part of the Marshall Islands.

    This summer, Aunty published an article “Climate change ‘helps seas disturb Japanese war dead'”

    Yet research indicates that the skeletons were discovered in an islet on Kwajalein Atoll by a resident digging for coral gravel on the beach at the base of the local landfill. The remains were between 2cm from the surface and 50cm.

  10. linneamogren says:


    They studied several earthquakes in Japan and other parts of Asia and discovered vacillations in ground level temperatures before an earthquake. Mostly ones which were 6.0 or greater.

  11. linneamogren says:


    Interesting that the AGW crowds have come to another collective conclusion that the cooling Pacific is an explanation as to why GW has stopped for over 15 years. Since they did not find the missing heat within the oceans, it must be that they cooled! But they did admit an interesting point. But then move on as if they never pointed out that C02 was not correlating with temps.

    “The Earth’s average temperature has risen by more than 1 degree Fahrenheit since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. But the temperature rise has not been moving in lock step with the rise of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.”

    “There’s no telling how long this cool phase will persist. But the previous Pacific cool phase, which started in the 1940s, lasted about 30 years. It can’t last forever; the ocean will eventually return to a warm phase, “and when that happens, we will be seeing unprecedented rates of climate warming,”

  12. tallbloke says:

    Linnea: The AGW proponents are flailing round, trying to square the circle and find the missing shilling. The logic is getting worse by the year. The latest is that the extra greenhouse gases don’t ‘trap heat’ in the atmosphere, but somehow increase the amount of solar shortwave getting in. This is how they account for the fact that the outgoing longwave radiation has increased instead of decreased, as their theory originally said it would.

  13. linneamogren says:


    “The latest is that the extra greenhouse gases don’t ‘trap heat’ in the atmosphere, but somehow increase the amount of solar shortwave getting in.”

    So we are getting a total reversal of their hypothesis. Well, our side has always been clear that shortwave radiation warms the earth and deep oceanic waters and that longwave can’t increase the radiative thermal equilibrium at the surface or deep ocean waters. Since longwave radiation only penetrates the upper wave surface. Longwave radiation (according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics) can’t be warmer than incoming shortwave radiation.

    It seems they want to grab the golden goose of shortwave for their own.

  14. tallbloke says:

    Linnea: Yes. No explanation of how extra co2 reduces cloud when they told us it would increase water vapour though. No WV feedback – only 1C per doubling.


  15. oldbrew says:

    So CO2 is the dominant climate factor, except when it isn’t? This theory is shameless tripe, folks.

  16. Apologies for the delay, Joe.

    NetCDF document structure is hierarchical. So an easy import into e.g. a spreadsheet is out of the question unless it knows how to “unroll” NetCDF.

    Opening the NetCDF is done with data processing applications. For analysis, “R” would be a “common” option. Manuals, sources and binaries from e.g. here.

    Libraries are available for various computer languages; Perl and Python included. Here’s an example of what NOAA does.

    It’s not intended for “casual” browsing.