Dutch deathcap

Posted: June 25, 2015 by tchannon in alarmism

Dutch court orders state to slash carbon emissions
Activists welcome decision to order Netherlands to slash greenhouse gas emissions by at least 25 percent by 2020.A Dutch court has ordered the state to slash greenhouse gas emissions by at least 25 percent by 2020, after a group of citizens took their government to court.

Climate activists in the packed courtroom clapped and cheered as presiding Judge Hans Hofhuis read the ruling on Wednesday.

“The court orders the state to reduce the overall volume of greenhouse gas emissions in such a way that they are at least 25 percent less in 2020 compared to 1990,” Hofhuis said.

Al Jazeera

Well if they will get involved with stupidity, politicians well get bums bitten.

“The state must do more to reverse the imminent danger caused by climate change, given also its duty to protect and improve the environment,” the court said.

Effective control of Dutch emissions is “one of the state’s tasks”, it said, adding that the cost of the reductions would not be “unacceptably high”.

So a court knows about costs? Bullshit.

A judge who doesn’t understand Canute or do they, politicians can though do what what they do anyway, ignore it. Nothing words can do to reality.

However…

It remains unclear exactly how the court can enforce its ruling. It has the power to impose fines for failure to carry out its orders, but never uses such powers against the government and Urgenda did not request such a move, said Judge Peter Blok.

Precisely.

Good when competition own goals.

Post by Tim

Comments
  1. E.M.Smith says:

    25% in 5 years.

    5% per year. Of ALL cars, trucks, ships, Diesel trains, home heaters, water heaters, factories, and electricity production.

    Riiiight….

    As high growth is about 4% and that doesn’t happen with high cost high tax policies, this will consume ALL available growth and then some. That puts Holland in recession for the next 1/2 decade. Throwing away working capital to replace it with poor substitutes will exacerbate the problems. Maybe they can form a new Debtors EU with Greece…

  2. hunter says:

    Does the Court have that authority? If so, we are seeing the modern day equivalent of the missionaries getting the king to convert and thereby forcing all others to either go along or get gone.
    The climate cult is pernicious, unethical, irrational, and relentless. A dangerous combination.

  3. How can the Dutch courts invoke
    The collapse that this would provoke?
    Judgement clearly clouded,
    By a green mist enshrouded,
    Perhaps it was all just a joke!
    http://rhymeafterrhyme.net/mother-nature-is-laughing-shes-having-such-fun-to-see-just-how-gullible-weve-all-become/

  4. E.M.Smith says June 25, 2015 at 3:28 am

    25% in 5 years. 5% per year. Of ALL cars, trucks, ships, Diesel trains, home heaters, water heaters, factories, and electricity production.”

    Riiiight….

    As high growth is about 4% and that doesn’t happen with high cost high tax policies, this will consume ALL available growth and then some. That puts Holland in recession for the next 1/2 decade. Throwing away working capital to replace it with poor substitutes will exacerbate the problems. Maybe they can form a new Debtors EU with Greece…

    Since we cannot attack such from political correctness! Can we not politely drive each up the mountain to gleefully leap into the volcano? -will-

  5. Petrossa says:

    it’ll be overturned in the superior court, the state has appealed the ruling. It’s such a stupendously silly ruling based on an article in dutch law which states that the government must protect it’s citizens.

    This judge ruled on that ground. The government fails to protect because it doesn’t do enough against climate chance. It’s so beyond the control of the government to do anything about global climate change the ruling doesn’t stand a chance.

    This activist group simply filed suit in court where they knew the judge was himself of the climate religion.

  6. M Simon says:

    Well,

    The Dutch could go to War with China and make the Chinese cut back. OTOH I like and use NXP chips. I hope this doesn’t affect them.

  7. wolsten says:

    The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

  8. oldbrew says:

    Fortunately cycling and windmills are popular in Holland😉

  9. Richard111 says:

    How will they measure the reduction? Will they factor in the increase from Chine and India?

  10. p.g.sharrow says:

    25% reduction in 5 years! No one could be this stupid. This decision is designed to fail. Just a local judge getting his 3 minutes of fame. pg

  11. BLACK PEARL says:

    Its all [snip] this is the reality for the foreseeable future
    http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/north-east-news/drilling-date-set-north-seas-6896191

    Its just going to take a little more time for it to sink in

    [mod: tone it down slightly here in public please, not that I disagree –Tim]

  12. Kon Dealer says:

    Just what was the Judge smoking?
    I hear the Dutch grow a lot of it.

  13. Steve C says:

    And all this because of the poisonous activism of 900 deluded individuals trying to de-civilise their country. Let’s hope the appeal succeeds.

  14. For years governments worldwide have been speaking the green rhetoric in public and then in private accepting much of what we say about the costs and benefits and shelving targets, putting up coal powered electricity etc.

    And that’s because we sceptics have won the argument. Common sense is having to prevail because no government can afford the insane policies.

    But still they’ve kept on talking the talk, stringing the alarmists along – allowing the alarmists in academia to deny funding for sceptic research, giving money to NGOs to tell utter lies, etc.

    Well finally, the politicians have been told by the Dutch court and soon they will no doubt be told by the UK court when the Scottish government bring their case, that you can’t say one thing in public and do another in private.

    So they will have to stop their two faced policies. And which do we think they will opt for?
    1. To push insane amounts of money at green follies to make a few green voters happy
    2. To stop the insane amounts of money we are wasting to make the majority of sane sensible voters who care about how much money they waste happy.

    It’s not difficult to see who will come out worst from these court cases!

  15. M Simon says:

    Kon Dealer says:
    June 25, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    I hear the Dutch grow a lot of it.

    Not legally. They sell a lot. But the supply comes out of thin air. Or more likely CO2 enhanced growing spaces.

  16. J Martin says:

    I meet a lot of Dutch people when I go on holiday in France, they all seem very nice mostly. I think they have had to juggle nature and life more than most countries and a successful economy has allowed them some room to have green tendencies. But I think they are fundamentally a practical people and will in due course see the lunacy of this court’s decision.

  17. J Martin says:

    You can’t legislate against stupidity, but it appears the stupid can legislate.

  18. Bitter&Twisted says:

    There is no cure for “stupid”.

  19. oldbrew says:

    They had better do something before their bread starts shrinking – LOL.

    ‘Bread baked using wheat produced under expected climate conditions in 2050 results in smaller loaves due to reduced levels of protein in grain’
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/11690772/Latest-victim-of-global-warming-loaves-of-bread-will-be-smaller-in-future-warn-scientists.html

    As usual they’re conflating increased CO2 with changes in climate which don’t seem to be happening as predicted by dodgy climate models.

  20. Mjw says:

    Why wait, let the power companies turn off one quarter of all power plants immediately and see how the public like it. Publish the names and addresses of the complainants and the idiot judge and let nature takes its course.

  21. oldbrew says:

    Washington State is in the middle of a similar legal action.

    ‘A court in Seattle has handed a legal victory to a group of young petitioners asking that the state of Washington do more to fight climate change.’
    http://news.vice.com/article/a-group-of-washington-teens-took-the-state-to-court-over-climate-change-and-won

  22. DD More says:

    E.M.Smith says: 25% in 5 years. 5% per year.

    Will Janoschka says:
    June 25, 2015 at 8:06 am

    E.M.Smith says 25% in 5 years. 5% per year.
    As high growth is about 4%
    p.g.sharrow says: 25% reduction in 5 years! No one could be this stupid.

    Please re-read the ruling. It is “The court orders the state to reduce the overall volume of greenhouse gas emissions in such a way that they are at least 25 percent less in 2020 compared to 1990,” Hofhuis said.

    The only way it will be 5% per year is if from 1990 to 2015 there was 1- no gain in CO2. 2 – no population growth 3 – no increase in per capita usage.
    If there is anything like the U.S., to get the 25% drop, per capita usage will been at 1920 levels.