Merry Christmas one and all

Posted: December 24, 2015 by tallbloke in Blog

Seasons greetings and happy holidays to everyone!
This is the Talkshop Christmas open thread, for whatever you’d like to discuss.

Image credit Eddie Wong. GPL

Image credit Eddie Wong. GPL


  1. Andrew says:

    Merry Christmas Mr T.

  2. Joe Public says:

    To Rog & his team, plus commenters – “All the best for Xmas, and a prosperous New Year”

  3. vukcevic says:

    Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all

  4. oldbrew says:

    Merry Christmas all.

    Not too much of this…

  5. Merry Christmas Rog and a Happy NUKIP Year.

  6. J Martin says:

    On Twitter someone called Stephanie added me to a ”Climate Deniers List’. I take that as a badge of honour !

    I notice Tallbloke and many others are also on said list.

    Happy Christmas and a Merry New Year one and all.

  7. colliemum says:

    Merry Christmas Rog and everybody!

    Since my memory goes back further than last week, I can tell you that it was as warm at Christmas in 1981 as it is this year – but since nobody had heard of global warming then, we enjoyed it, and never mind one of the kids trying to swim in the sea fully clothed. Well, he was only eight years old … 🙂

  8. All the best to you guys, have a wonderful festive Christmas.

  9. ren says:


  10. tchannon says:

    Merry Christmas everyone.

  11. ArndB says:

    Merry Christmas and Peace upon Meteorology,
    which is unable to understand that naval warfare
    made weather in winter 1939/40
    ‘Winter War’ – December 1939

    What a shame after 71 years not explained! The New York Times
    reported from Rovaniemi/Finland on December 25, 1939 ; AT.

    December 24th 1939: Report by James Aldridge:
    “The cold numbs the brain in this Arctic hell, snow sweeps over the darkened wastes, the winds howl and the temperature is 30 degrees below zero (minus 34.4° C). Here the Russians and Finns are battling in blinding snowstorms for possession of ice-covered forests. …I reached the spot just after the battle ended. It was the most horrible sight I had ever seen. As if the men had been suddenly turned to wax, there were two or three thousand Russians and a few Finns, all frozen in fighting attitudes……”

  12. Roy Martin says:

    Merry Christmas to all, and a big thanks to the regular contributors to the Talkshop.

  13. tallbloke says:

    Thanks ren. Looks like it’ll be a warm, wet and windy Christmas.

    Never mind, there’s plenty of merry-making to be had indoors.

  14. ren says:

    Thank you, I wish you all a peaceful Christmas.

  15. PeterF says:

    Frohe Weihnachten und ein Gutes Neues Jahr

  16. Bloke down the pub says:

    Hopefully Santa brought what everyone wanted for Christmas. If you haven’t had it yet Rog, maybe yule get it in the EU referendum.

  17. tallbloke says:

    Santa brought me enough of the spirits of Christmas that I won’t be worrying about the referendum for a wee while. 🙂

  18. A C Osborn says:

    Merry Christmas one and all.

  19. Anoneumouse says:

    yo ho ho and a bottle of ………..

    oh yeh RUM

    thumbs up

    merry Christmas hic

  20. ren says:

    promises to be the same difference of pressure, about 100 hPa.

  21. Paul Vaughan says:

    They kind of remind me of Christmas trees — blue Christmas trees maybe…

    And what’s Christmas without flashing colored lights? : ]

    Christmas, with a gift puzzle scattered on the table for guests to solve happily in good spirits. Roy: JEV notes sprinkled with joy all over Suggestions-16. Vukcevic: Much appreciation is due. You sure know how to pick a gift. Thanks for bringing the key puzzle piece:

    Talkshop = #1

    Season’s Best

  22. ArndB says:

    ren says:
    December 25, 2015 at 5:14 pm ArndB:Look at the polar vortex

    Sorry, I am not very impressed!
    Today we have zero degrees in central Finland (mid-December 2015)
    ____ in mid-December 1939 about minus 42 °C!
    ____!938/39 was the warmest year since end of Little Ice Age around 1850!
    ____What caused the sudden cooling in winter 1939/40?
    Explain the sudden change!

  23. ren says:

    The polar vortex in the lower stratosphere moved, as it will now.,74.26,396
    This position enables the development of high pressure over the Baltic Sea.

  24. ren says:

    It’s a very active anticyclone. Cold air very quickly falls below 100 m.

  25. oldbrew says:

    ‘US Christmas lights use more energy than entire countries’

    Don’t tell the EPA 😉

  26. ArndB says:

    ren says:
    December 26, 2015 at 10:17 am ArndB It’s a very active anticyclone. Cold air very quickly falls below 100 m.

    The situation today is completely different to condition in December 1939, although in both cases strong El Nino events were in place.
    Since WWII started in September 1939 a weather blocking build up, reaching its first pick around Christmas, with even worst effects in January and February 1940., that is indicated in a temperature map: , e.g in early January 1940 :
    __ January 01: All navigation on Danube stopped owing to ice (Frankcom, 1940).
    __ January 08: Record frost in Northern and Central Russia , -35°C/ -31°F.
    __ January 11: Romania , -40°C/-40°F.
    __ January 11: Sea freezing in the Black Sea near Odessa .
    __ January 11: Berlin , -20°C/-4°F.
    __ January 11: Riga –41°C/; Budapest –26°C;Vienna –25°C, Sofia –22°C (Neue Zürcher Zeitung, NZZ, Jan. 11.)
    __ January 13: Soviet Union extreme cold, Don Region –38°C (NZZ, 14. Jan).
    __ January 13: Riga , the bitterest cold wave for years (-40°F).
    __ January 15: Warsaw –40°C/-40°F.
    More here:

  27. ren says:

    We must also take an amendment to the sea surface temperature anomalies.

  28. ren says:

    Important is the speed with which the temperature drops. Of course, the scale is different.