BBC interviews tallbloke: Gets more than bargained for

Posted: February 21, 2016 by tallbloke in Politics, solar system dynamics

I got a slot on BBC Radio Leeds this morning (well, you have to work your way up to the bigtime). They spared me the trip downtown to the studio (they didn’t think I was worth the taxi fare), so apologies for the poor sound quality. The interview was conducted over Skype.  

So, how did I do? What could I have said in response to the questions which would have had more impact? Help me crowdsource my own media training.

  1. Nicely done. I think you made your points clearly. It’s pretty early on in the debate and I see a lot more nonsense arguments on the horizon which you’ll have to be ready to trounce with efficient, truth-filled and well-reasoned soundbites. I’m not anticipating any problems. 🙂

  2. Andrew says:

    One question to pose, is as to whether the migrant benefits cut, would survive the EU/human rights law courts.

    Article 50 installs an immediate trade deal at point of Brexit. So not such a big leap.

    Dave has not negotiated an end to ever closer union, because that requires treaty change.

  3. wolsten says:

    You gave a good account. It’s very hard to think on your feet in these interviews. I’d emphasise the point that Cameron is claiming we are voting on reformed EU when that is clearly not the case. The fact of the matter is that he didn’t ask for very much and got even less.

  4. tallbloke says:

    Thanks Simon.

    Good points Andrew. I covered the interference of EU courts and commission in judgements and sovereignty early in the interview, but it’s worth ramming the point home about the indefintie nature of ‘the deal’ for sure. It’s about time I read article 50 carefully.

  5. I think you managed to get your points across and the interviewer was fair – though I don’t hear much of Radio Leeds down here.
    I think more needs to be explained by the media reports rather than the line that: “Dave has come back with nothing”. What is this “nothing”. Why is it such a poor deal?
    You touched on the UK making its own deal with other countries such as Canada, Australia and India – the Commonwealth if you like. More needs to be explained how the UK can benefit from this outside of the EU.

  6. A C Osborn says:

    Is the radio link now broken?
    It shows from 00:00 to 00:00.

    [Reply] Just click the play button on the left. The audio is uploaded here. TB

  7. tom0mason says:

    Similar to A C Osborn audio does not play, also the link shows “can’t be played because the file is corrupt” error message.

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    Is the file to where the link points still available?
    Hope this helps…

    [Reply] Works fine in my chrome browser. What are you using? TB

  8. Well done, Roger. I have been following the arguments pro and con off and on for 40 years and learned things from your presentation that I had not heard before.

    In future you might mention that joining the EU radically changed the British constitution in ways that were never set before the British electorate. Omission of essential facts and their consequences counts as deception.

  9. Excellent effort Roger. The ‘leap into the unknown’ question was I think the hardest. On that it’s fair to retort that something like the Euro project has never been tried before – cramming so many very disparate economies into a single currency union. To make the Euro work is going to mean massive further political integration that has also never been tried before. It’s perfectly rational for the UK to want the loosest possible ties with the EU while this utopian experiment is attempted.

  10. tallbloke says:

    Wolsten: Yes, I tried to convey how little he got without sounding confrontational.

    Fred: Thanks. Trouble with arguing the toss of our terms of entry is people start yawing about getting ancient history lessons. I agree though, and I put together a post on the unconstitutional nature of our entry to EEC a while back.

    Richard: Good points, and the Euro entry demands of the usual suspects will haunt them throughout this campaign. Another point is that Cameron said he’d campaign for brexit if his demands weren’t met. Can’t be such a risky leap in the dark then, since he (asked for and) got bugger all.

  11. oldbrew says:

    Frederick C says: ‘you might mention that joining the EU radically changed the British constitution’

    Strictly speaking there is no written British constitution. It’s more a patchwork of laws.

  12. BLACK PEARL says:

    Yes I concur with other comments .. very nicely done and logically put …. Well Done

  13. tom0mason says:

    I’m using Seamonkey (Firefox’s full internet suite) on a Linux platform. (User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39). All other sites with mixed-media links and embedding I’ve just tried appear to work correctly (and as expected). The link here however still gets me nowhere.

    Just downloaded the Slimjet browser, it is built on top of the Chromium open-source project on which Google Chrome is also based.
    Will give that a try.

    ~~~~~~ later~~~~~~~

    Slimjet works and plays…. and lets me download as a .mp3 file.

    Seamoney (or the installed ad-blocker) appears to be stopping twitter managing the multimedia.

  14. tom0mason says:

    Roger you hit the nail on the head with how this European project wishes to homogenize all EU states’ laws, and rules of trade, regardless of history and culture. It is about the primacy of our own courts and their ability to legislate for Britain and its people good.
    Britain’s trade with the world should be governed by Britain’s own agreements with other countries, not the governed by the vested interests of the EU bureaucrats, technocrats, and wannabe autocrats. Those EU bureaucrats, technocrats, and wannabe autocrats that British people can not vote out.

  15. I regularly get interviewed on Radio Devon. We always do it on the landline, with no problems. Somebody complained to the BBC about my latest appearance when I was interviewed by Simon Bates. The complaint was that Simon Bates’ treatment of me was disgraceful. No doubt the complaint will be brushed aside by the BBC.

  16. tom0mason says:

    Boris Johnston has just announced he is to campaign for Britain to leave the EU.

  17. tallbloke says:

  18. Andrew says:

    A very useful article

    Kills the “but Norway” argument, and others.

  19. Fanakapan says:

    Well, if Boris has jumped in the wrong direction, it means a high probability of Osborne being the ships Master in the next cycle. Now there’s a depressing thought 😦

  20. Stephen Richards says:

    Roger, may I make a suggestion. Do yourself a mindmap of all the benefits to be gained by leaving the EU and all the negative issues of being in. Like Dave’s deal is only in law and can be removed the day after the ref. Like over 1200 directives from the communists of the commission, like one Dutch boat taking 25% of the fish caught in british waters and so on.

    The next interview will be better and more coherent and you will be able to guide the interviewer. BBC interviewers are in general script following numpties. If you can push them away from their script you will catch them out.

  21. Stephen Richards says:

    tallbloke says:

    February 21, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    I have not laughed so much at a cartoon for a long time. But seriously, I heard that Dave thinks it’s alright to campaign to destroy the UKs sovereignty and stay in power when he looses.

  22. Andrew says:

    Boris will get the headlines tomorrow, but a genuinly great man has died.

    Many other shorter videos available.

  23. Andrew says:

    Boris in the Telegraph

  24. Andrew says:

    The worms are turning.

  25. tallbloke says:

    Great film about Winkle Brown. An hour well spent. Thanks Andrew.

  26. Scute says:

    I must say, you came across very well indeed. It’s all in the tone and countenance. You seemed totally confident and unruffled with all facts at your fingertips. And managed it while sounding thoughtful and approachable, not the least bit opinionated.

    I think you should drive home the fact that the EU commission are the only ones allowed to draft legislation. So we can’t lobby or vote for an MEP who promises to table such and such a bill. All he can do is vote on what’s dished up. By all means mention that they are also unelected bureaucrats, as others do, but so are National Health managers. The difference is that National Health managers don’t have a monopoly on drafting our laws.

  27. AlecM says:

    One of the main claims by the pro EU crowd is that the EU is better suited to fighting Climate Change!

  28. A C Osborn says:

    Roger, this is a very good article about Sovereignty in the Daily Mail, it also shows Cameron virtually lied on the Andrew Marr programme with some interesting historical background.

    There is also the really major faux pas he made about “not being able to control our borders when out of the EU”. What a really stupid thing for him to say.

    ps Firefox still doesn’t run your programme, it may be due to a pop up blocker.

  29. Fanakapan says:

    So, anybody buying Dollars today ?

  30. oldmanK says:

    AC Osborne : “ps Firefox still doesn’t run your programme, it may be due to a pop up blocker.”

    Save it from firefox. Then download VLC media player (its very handy) and play it on that. works fine.