Gerald Warner: Brexit ‘negotiations’ are a nonsense: we just need to say goodbye politely

Posted: August 24, 2016 by tallbloke in People power, Politics

EU-sinkingEnjoyable piece from Gerald Warner

It is time to stop using the misleading term “Brexit negotiations”. Britain’s exit from the European Union is not subject to negotiation: it has been determined by the British people, the sole legitimate authority on this issue. One negotiates to enter an institution, not to leave it. We are simply checking out of the EU hotel; we paid our bill long ago and we are free to leave. We are merely saying a courteous farewell.

The weasel term “negotiations” – too uncritically accepted by Leavers – suggests we can only leave the EU by gracious permission of the Brussels apparatchiks, that they will decide whether a partial break with the EU is permitted and how many laws, regulations and even payments into the EU budget will still be imposed on Britain. Unhappily, many British civil servants who will be involved in the “negotiations” share this absurd mindset.

The mentality of these people, marinated in the habit of deference to the EU, is that Britain is an offender petitioning the parole board for early release. The Government’s pretence that Article 50 cannot be triggered until next year typifies this delusion. Why should hundreds of British officials toil unnecessarily to prepare for complex and protracted “negotiations” with an entity we are abandoning to its increasingly ominous fate?

When EU apparatchiks place voluminous documents for “negotiation” on the table, they should simply be swept onto the floor as irrelevant. Since voting for Brexit, the United Kingdom is no longer subject to one sentence or comma of the monumental acquis communautaire. British “negotiators” are only creating imaginary obstacles to our departure. Trade agreements – the only area in which the term “negotiation” is relevant – can be conducted separately from the brief formalities of departure and concluded after finalisation of Brexit, on Britain’s terms as much as the EU’s.

Comments
  1. oldbrew says:

    ‘We are merely saying a courteous farewell.’

    When?

  2. Not to sure about this!

    Yes we are leaving, but we want continued access at favourable terms.

    To my mind, we should say we want access to the EU27 market place at no cost with no freedom of movement.

    I am sure the EU27 will say you have to pay something, we say ok, WTO rules, 10% import duty on all goods coming into the UK from the EU27.

    I predict it would last a day – Germany would be screaming for zero tariff…..

    However, the EU27 may say you can have free access except for this and that – that is when the negotiators go to work.

  3. E.M.Smith says:

    Watch out for a Green Commission inserted into any negotiated agreement.

    That is the hidden noose in TPP, TTIP, et. al. It binds you to ALL “environmental” agreements, and that includes Paris.

  4. oldbrew says:

    The Eurozone is feeling the strain.

    Deutsche Bank chief lashes out at ECB

    The head of Germany’s largest bank has warned of the “fatal consequences” of the European Central Bank’s ultra-loose monetary policy. Low rates are hurting savers and retirees, he said.
    http://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-bank-chief-lashes-out-at-ecb/a-19498447

  5. Tenuk says:

    I think Britain will keep everything in limbo for as long as possible and watch as the current structure of the EU, which in reality is just a Germany/France political duopoly, start to implode. This will enable the UK to act as an interested outsider, taking an honest broker role. We can facilitate the process of reform which will change the EU back to being a free trade area of separate countries, rather than becoming a politically integrated federal republic. We are not the only country to see the dangers inherent in the direction the current structure of the EU is going.

  6. tallbloke says:

    Good replies. It’s an exciting time to be involved in politics for sure. Next stop Jackson Missisipi. Nigel is making an appearance.

  7. BoyfromTottenham says:

    Hi from Oz. Keep an eye on the share price of Deutsche Bank (see recent article here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-24/deutsche-bank-ceo-warns-fatal-consequences-savers) – if it goes bust, the EU is in for much bigger trouble than BREXIT.

  8. tallbloke says:

  9. JohnM says:

    Except Trump is in freefall.
    Nigel is soon to be without a job (except for his lifetime EU pension).
    And politicians have been ignoring the electorate since the first vote was cast.
    Oh, and the referendum vote is not legally-binding upon parliament.
    Voting was invented so people would feel happy they were involved…they have been ignored since then.

  10. tallbloke says:

    Freedom isn’t free. You have to fight for it. I worked bloody hard as the regional director in the leave campaign to get the referendum result we needed.

    I now need everyone including JohnM to quit with the negative waves and help us follow through.

    If you don’t like UKIP, then go and find the local organisation of your choice which is going to continue campaigning to have the will of the people fulfilled and GIVE IT YOUR PRACTICAL SUPPORT

    e.g.
    https://invokedemocracyyorkshire.org/2016/08/20/public-meeting-brexit-its-time-to-get-grip-and-shape-our-future/

    Here’s Nigel Farage’s speech to the people of Mississippi in full (7 mins).

    Like the man says, get your walking boots on and get campaigning. We want the Brexit we voted for.

  11. Annie says:

    Thanks for posting that Tallbloke. I missed Gerald Warner after he left the Telegraph.

  12. tallbloke says:

    And yesterday the Electoral Commission exposed who the main backers for Bremain were:
    Lord Sainsbury £3,756,803
    David Harding £750,000
    Lloyd Doorman £500,000
    Goldman Sachs International £500,000
    J.P.Morgan Capital Financing Ltd £500,000
    Morgan Stanley & Co. Into PLC £250,000

  13. ivan says:

    Interesting that those on your list also appear to be very interested an carbon trading. Are they afraid that when the UK finally manages to leave the EU that someone in the government will big enough balls to organise the repeal of the Climate Change Act and so cut off their little scam?

  14. oldbrew says:

    Telegraph: Theresa May will trigger Brexit negotiations without Commons vote

    ‘Her decision will come as a blow to Remain campaigners, who had been hoping to use Parliament to delay or halt Brexit entirely.’
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/26/theresa-may-will-trigger-brexit-negotiations-without-commons-vot/

    ‘Remain campaigner’ doesn’t seem to mean much any more.

  15. dscott says:

    The reports of Trump’s immanent demise are overly exaggerated.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/08/31/back-board-two-new-polls-wisconsin-show-newly-tight-presidential-race/

    JohnM seems to be wishcasting. Facts, not desires determine reality, that is why liberals are called lunatics (loony left) by conservatives in America. No outcome is assured other than there will be one winner. As an American, I can not predict the winner of this election, however I do know the results of either winner. IF Hillary Clinton wins, corruption wins and those who voted for that corruption deserve what a self serving Hillary will do to them. IF Trump wins, a reset will occur that starts the process of a rollback of Socialism in all it’s insidious forms. Socialism is corruption, the cover up by a self serving elite lying to the populace while enriching and enhancing themselves at everyone’s expense in a zero sum game.

    As a Britain, you best hope Hillary loses since her win will mean you are completely on your own like with Obama.

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