Paris climate commitment ‘crippling’ to US growth: White House

Posted: May 27, 2017 by oldbrew in climate, Politics
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Decision time looks to be nearing on this issue, as reports. Place your bets.

US compliance with its commitments under the Paris Agreement on climate change would be “crippling” to growth, the White House said Friday.

During his election campaign, avowed climate sceptic Donald Trump promised to exit the 2015 UN pact on limiting global warming.

But Trump has now said he will make a decision after returning to Washington following the G7 summit in Sicily which starts Friday, at the end of his international tour.

“We know that the levels that were agreed to by the prior administration would be highly crippling to the US economic growth,” Trump’s economic advisor Gary Cohn said.

“The president has told you that he’s going to ultimately make a decision on Paris and climate when he gets back. He’s interested to hear what the G7 leaders have to say about climate,” said Cohn, speaking aboard the presidential Air Force One. “It will be a fairly robust discussion on that. We know that because we had it today with the French president, we had it with the Belgians, we had it with all the bilaterals we’ve had,” he added.

Trump “wants to do the right thing for the environment. He cares about the environment. But he also cares very much about creating jobs for American workers,” said the adviser to a Republican president who has declared the end to a “war on coal”.

Under President Barack Obama, the US, with world’s second biggest carbon emitter, pledged to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 26-28 percent below 2005 levels by 2025.

A solution discussed in Washington could be to remain in the Paris Agreement but launch a re-examination of US objectives. That would allow it to keep a seat at the negotiating table while sending a signal domestically of a form of break with the previous Democratic administration.

US withdrawal from the 196-nation Paris Agreement would be a real blow to “climate diplomacy” which, less than 18 months ago, celebrated the historic pact made possible by a hard-fought agreement negotiated between Washington and Beijing.

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  1. tallbloke says:

    I have confidence Pres. Trump will stand by his campaign pledge. US never ratified Kyoto, and is the only major power to have reduced emissions (due to fracking). But he might go about it the wily way and get the senators to kill it for him, so he can shrug of the doomocrat wailing and gnashing of teeth.

  2. tallbloke says:

    Love the way Twitter discloses your exact location, even if you’re president of the USA

  3. tom0mason says:

    Hopefully Trump and all his advisors get to read —

    A meteorologist and an analytical chemist teamed up explore the claims that CO2 levels drive climate. (They also mention the role of underwater volcanoes, a drum that I have been beating for more than 20 years.)

    In their newly published paper, ‘Role of atmospheric carbon dioxide in climate change‘( ), meteorologist Dr Martin Hertzberg and analytical chemist Hans Schreuder cite a plethora of data concerning what is known – and currently accepted – about the role of carbon dioxide in climate change (global warming).

    The data examined includes:

    (a) Vostok (Antarctica) ice-core measurements;

    (b) rising CO2 levels in the atmosphere;

    (c) temperature changes that precede CO2 changes;

    (d) global temperature trends;

    (e) satellite data;

    (f) effect of solar activity.

    The two highly qualified scientists found that:

    “Nothing in the data supports the supposition that atmospheric CO2 is a driver of weather or climate, or that human emissions control atmospheric CO2.”

    Any changes in CO2 levels are “overwhelmingly natural.”

    Looking at the relationship between CO2 and climate over the past 400,000 years, the data indicate that human-caused CO2 emissions had no influence on the Earth’s temperature.

  4. BoyfromTottenham says:

    Thanks Tom0, but I think it will take more than even a silver bullet like this paper to kill the CO2 demon. Hopefully Pres Trump can though.

  5. oldbrew says:

    Report: Trump Tells Allies He Plans to Remove U.S. From Paris Climate Agreement

    U.S. President Donald Trump has informed multiple individuals, including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, that he intends to remove the United States from the Paris Climate Agreement, according several sources.

    On Saturday night, Axios reported the news based on “three sources with direct knowledge.”

    Breitbart News has independently confirmed this reporting and that Trump has told others the same thing: that he plans to withdraw the U.S. from the agreement.

    Clexit: Kill the Paris Treaty and Rip Out the Roots

  6. tallbloke says:

    Evan Vucci / AP

    President Trump has privately told multiple people, including EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, that he plans to leave the Paris agreement on climate change, according to three sources with direct knowledge.

    Publicly, Trump’s position is that he has not made up his mind and when we asked the White House about these private comments, Director of Strategic Communications Hope Hicks said, “I think his tweet was clear. He will make a decision this week.”

    Why this matters: Pulling out of Paris is the biggest thing Trump could to do unravel Obama’s climate policies. It also sends a stark and combative signal to the rest of the world that working with other nations on climate change isn’t a priority to the Trump administration. And pulling out threatens to unravel the ambition of the entire deal, given how integral former President Obama was in making it come together in the first place.

    Caveat: Although Trump made it clear during the campaign and in multiple conversations before his overseas trip that he favored withdrawal, he has been known to abruptly change his mind — and often floats notions to gauge the reaction of friends and aides. On the trip, he spent many hours with Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, powerful advisers who back the deal.

    Behind-the-scenes: The mood inside the EPA this week has been one of nervous optimism. In a senior staff meeting earlier this week, Pruitt told aides he wanted them to pump the brakes on publicly lobbying for withdrawal from Paris.

    Instead, the EPA staff are quietly working with outside supporters to place op eds favoring withdrawal from Paris.

    The White House has told Pruitt to lay off doing TV appearances until Trump announces his decision on Paris. (In past weeks, the EPA Administrator has gone on TV to say the U.S. needs to quit Paris, but Pruitt told aides he’ll be keeping a lower profile. He doesn’t want a Paris withdrawal to be seen as his victory. “It needs to be the President’s victory,” one source said, paraphrasing what Pruitt has told aides.)

    Pruitt’s aides have told associates in recent days that they remain confident the President will withdraw from Paris but they’ve been worried about him being overseas and exposed to pressure from European leaders and the environmentalist views of his top aides like Ivanka and economic adviser Gary Cohn. Top EPA staff were relieved when Trump refused to join the other six nations of the G7 in reaffirming “strong commitment” to the Paris agreement.

    One level deeper: If Trump follows through and announces publicly he plans to withdraw from the Paris deal, an administration official laid out three ways he could do that:

    Trump could announce he is pulling the U.S. from the deal, which would trigger a withdrawal process that wouldn’t conclude until November 2020 at the earliest. Under the deal’s terms, any country can’t send notice of its intent to withdraw until three years after the deal entered into force, which was Nov. 4, 2016. The actual process of withdrawal would then take one year. In this time, it’s feasible Trump could change his mind, the administration source said.
    Trump could declare that the Paris deal is actually a legal treaty that requires Senate approval. Such a vote would fail, and then Trump would have Senate backing to not abide by the deal, which he deems a treaty. A letter that 22 Senate Republicans, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, sent to Trump this week urging him to withdraw from the deal, increases the odds of this happening, the source said. Trump could also call for a Senate vote in combination with either the first or third option.

    Trump could withdraw the U.S. from the treaty that underpins the Paris deal, which is called the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. This would be the most extreme option because it would take the U.S. out of all global climate diplomacy. This process would take just one year.

    Will we always have Paris? All of these scenarios take more time and maneuvering than a simple announcement, which ensures the debate about what to do with the climate deal won’t be over with any time soon.

  7. oldbrew says:

    If the US withdraws by executive order of the President, that might leave the door open for any successor to opt back in by the same method?

  8. tom0mason says:


    If Trump ops out from the FCCC commitments then not only is the US out of the Paris agreement but out of ALL the UN-mediated climate change nonsense!

    See for the complete deal.

  9. DB says:

    An executive order can be reversed. However, there is a US law that prohibits funding for organizations that include the Palestinians as members. The UNFCCC admitted Palestine to full membership at the end of 2015.

    Palestine toasts full membership of UN climate body
    Palestine will become the UN climate forum’s newest member in 2016 as it builds a greater stake in global institutions. The state will be upgraded from ‘observer’ to ‘party’ status by March….When Palestine joined UNESCO in 2011, it triggered a law prompting the US Congress to suspend funding for the Paris-based body, which accounted for a fifth of its budget. UNESCO retaliated by withdrawing US voting rights. It is unclear if Palestine’s full membership of the UNFCCC would prompt a similar outcome. US experts approached by Climate Home appeared uncertain.

  10. oldbrew says:

    Tony Heller – New Video : The Fake And Illegal Paris “Climate” Treaty
    Posted on May 28, 2017

    TH: ‘this horrible agreement…’

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  14. tom0mason says:

    And maybe Trump and his advisors should look at the benefits that the atmospherically rare gas CO2 is having on the planet —

    Woody vegetation changed significantly (linear regression, P < 0.05, n = 20) during 1992–2011 in approximately half of sub-Saharan Africa (47% of land areas). Most (77%) of the significant trends were positive, covering 36% of sub-Saharan Africa and representing an overall increase of 2.1 woody cover (%) (Fig. 1a). Most (70%) of the significant positive changes were in drylands covering about 4,900,000 km2 (overall change +2.9 woody cover (%)), mainly in the Sahel and southern Africa18,​19,​20 (Fig. 2a). Positive trends were also observed in the humid zones to a much smaller extent (2,100,000 km2), with an overall change of +0.8 woody cover

  15. oldbrew says:

    Left-wing heads will explode if Trump exits Paris

    CFACT has fed all the data into the most sophisticated computer models available and can project with 97% accuracy that the heads of global warming campaigners, the warming-compliant media and the entire political Left will explode if President Trump exits the UN Paris Agreement.

    Brace for hysteria.

    🤣🤣 – brace for tsunami of fake news as well

  16. oldbrew says:

    Alan Carlin: The Looney Effort to Keep the US in the Paris Non-Treaty “Treaty”

    The Climate-Industrial Complex (CIC) is fighting hard to keep the US in the Paris Accord (to the extent it ever was in it given that the Senate has never consented to it), which I call the Paris non-treaty Treaty.

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    Click for thread

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    Not yet:

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    Flashback: Trump’s election campaign.

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    Live feed to the announcement at 8pm