UK’s Northern Powergrid signs electric vehicle pact with Nissan 

Posted: May 27, 2017 by oldbrew in Energy, innovation
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This is about using the batteries of electric cars, vans etc. as a resource to support the national electricity network. Why it should need to be considered at all is an interesting question. They talk of “improving network capacity and helping to make renewable energy sources more affordable and more widely available”.

UK electricity distribution company Northern Powergrid has signed “a ground-breaking industry partnership” with electric vehicle manufacturer Nissan, reports Power Engineering International

The two organisations will work together over the next six years on examining how electric vehicles, batteries and other technologies can support energy networks.

They will also explore how new technologies can enhance the capacity, capability and resilience of the region’s power network to make it more active and responsive to the growing and changing demands of both domestic and commercial customers. 


The partnership comes as part of Nissan’s Intelligent Mobility business plan in Europe, which aims to demonstrate how electric vehicles can work in tandem with energy providers and grid infrastructure to deliver cleaner, more efficient energy networks.

One area highlighted by Northern Powergrid is vehicle-to-grid technology, which allows electric vehicles to be fully integrated into the grid, “improving network capacity and helping to make renewable energy sources more affordable and more widely available”.

“It also provides an opportunity to create mobile energy hubs, by integrating large numbers of electric vehicles directly with the grid.”

Jim Cardwell, head of trading and innovation at Northern Powergrid, said: “This signals the start of a ground-breaking industry partnership to explore new innovations that could support the creation of smarter, greener energy networks and help shape future technologies to support the efficient roll-out of electric vehicles.”

Full report: UK’s Northern Powergrid signs EV innovation pact with Nissan – Power Engineering International
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Comments
  1. oldbrew says:

    The race is on to be the first car manufacturer to make a profit on electric vehicle sales, or at least claim to be making a profit 😉

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/05/01/general-motors-says-will-become-first-automaker-generate-profit/

  2. A C Osborn says:

    Can anyone really see someone giving up their car for an hour, a day, or a week if required.
    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
    Unless of course they pay them bundles of Tax Payers cash.

  3. TinyCO2 says:

    It shouldn’t take 10 mins to throw this idea in the bin. Just two questions would do it.

    1) When would the batteries in the cars most be needed by the grid? Answer exactly the same time people are most likely to be away from their grid connection – at work, shopping or travelling to and from.

    2) Will people volunteer their car energy at that most important time of the day? No.

    Range anxiety is bad enough, but imagine if you had to worry that the grid would have slurped your battery empty when you plugged it in, instead of charging it up? All the while the grid is using the life of your battery to iron out the supply bumps – I don’t think so.

  4. oldbrew says:

    It says here – ‘earn money from the energy supplier’ (meaning everyone else pays the car owner via the supplier)

  5. Curious George says:

    The battery is the most expensive part of today’s electric cars. It lasts some 2,000 cycles. In this scheme it would be gone in 6 years without driving. Less if driving.

  6. stpaulchuck says:

    desperation, no more, no less. We’re decades away from any sensible and commercially economical storage system so the snake oil salesmen are desperate to find some, any, interim means.

    So let me see, I drive around on a gasoline engine to charge up my car battery then I hook up to the grid and upchuck that power to the grid. If I have an electric only car, I now have to wait until midnight to get a charge. Yep. I’m sure that’ll work.

  7. Dave Ward says:

    “Range anxiety is bad enough”

    And reports are now saying that a LACK of charging points is leading to “heated” scenes, when drivers are jockeying for a free one!

    Oh to be driving past (in a conventional car) when I spot that happening…

  8. Adam Gallon says:

    Shouldn’t take much doing to insert a suitable device in your charging circuit, to prevent your battery being used in this way. Simple trip switch? Cuts the circuit once the battery’s fully charged. Come home, battery drained, plug in, charge up, disconnect at say 4am?

  9. ivan says:

    Since the output from the car battery is DC what is stopping anyone from using a petrol or diesel powered DC generator to supply power to the grid and getting paid to do so? A nice little side earner except it is the people paying for the power from the grid that will pays for this.

  10. oldbrew says:

    What is stopping the power suppliers from buying their own batteries? Then they wouldn’t have to pay car owners.

    Ah…yes…it’s the variability thing isn’t it…don’t want money tied up in hardware that only gets used intermittently.

  11. steverichards1984 says:

    Ivan, I believe they call that Spanish Practices, and the Spanish have some history on this…..

  12. oldbrew says:

    Will the payments be better than the recharging cost?

    Ecotricity say: Each fast charge costs £6 for a 30 minute charging session.

    You won’t be charged for using the Electric Highway while you’re an Ecotricity energy customer, subject to our fair usage policy.
    http://www.ecotricity.co.uk/for-the-road/faqs/general-faqs

  13. Saighdear says:

    I can just see some So-sh’ul Media command to instruct motorists to fill up their batteries at work and get home quick to plug in their cars to back-up the grid supply. ( remember to fill your Electric Jerry-Can in case you run out before you get home! ) Haha what a joke all that is. Which Law of Physics is it again? Energy ( like matter ) can neither be created nor destroyed. Have those Ecoloons aka Clowns, not worthy of a Capital “C” as they are not Time-served Practitioners, ever considered just HOW MUCH Energy is spent in the fuel of ALL those Automobiles on our roads and fields at any one time? How can one expect to power those vehicles from our CURRENT Electric Supply – only time Wind, as example,provides “all electricity” as for scotland, is when there is Max usable wind and Minimum Demand. Otherwise for the rest of the UK, combined, just don’t even TRY to think about 100% Electric power

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