Turkish power ship proposed for Adelaide 

Posted: June 26, 2017 by oldbrew in Energy, government, ideology
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The dash for renewables in South Australia has gone so badly wrong that crisis measures are now called for, as PEI reports.

A large-scale temporary power solution is being considered, as South Australia struggles to ensure its energy security.

A 250 MW ship-based power station is under consideration as a solution to the crisis for the Australian state, which has seen a lot of investment in renewable power over recent years, while old fossil stations were retired.

The Turkish ship could be operational by the end of the year for less than the $360m budgeted for a new state-owned gas-fired power plant of the same capacity.


The ship-based plant would plug into the high-voltage grid near the 479 MW Pelican Point power station, which returns to full capacity on July 1.

A second option would be for a 125 MW Powership at Outer Harbor and another of the same size anchored off Port Augusta, plugging into the grid near the site of the defunct Northern power station.

The Powership fleet can operate on natural gas, liquid natural gas or heavy fuel oil and it is likely the ship would be leased until a permanent plant was built.
. . .
Adelaide Now online reports that opposition politicians are critical of the move, saying that using such ships, typically sent to war ravaged regions, shows the government’s poor decision making on power policy, linking it to the increase in residential electricity bills.

Full report: Turkish power ship proposed for Adelaide – Power Engineering International

Comments
  1. A C Osborn says:

    I wonder how it will fare when the next Typhoon comes their way?
    Does it use FF by any chance?
    Hypocrisy much.

  2. wolsten says:

    Reblogged this on Wolsten and commented:
    Just when you think you have seen it all.

  3. oldbrew says:

    Last year it was Tasmania in electricity crisis mode…

    The absurdly high cost of Tasmania’s switch to diesel: $1,163/MWh
    http://reneweconomy.com.au/the-absurdly-high-cost-of-tasmanias-switch-to-diesel-1163mwh-35521/

    Having just 14 per cent battery left on your smartphone can be quite stressful, right? Now imagine your smartphone is the state of Tasmania.
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/tasmania-relying-on-150-diesel-generators-for-electricity-until-june-20160329-gnt0pd.html
    – – –
    Somebody has to pay the high cost of all these ‘quick fixes’ caused by over-ambition for renewables.

    Funny how quickly they turn to ‘fossil’ fuels when the going gets tough 😎

  4. […] Source: Turkish power ship proposed for Adelaide  | Tallbloke’s Talkshop […]

  5. Graeme No.3 says:

    oldbrew:
    Tasmania, or more correctly the government owned Hydro company, was selling as much hydro electricity to Victoria (hence to other States) because of favourable prices, and importing coal fired when it was cheap. They reduced their dam levels too low thinking that they could fall back on imports, when the Basslink short circuited. Classical “how not to look ahead” lesson.
    Tasmania had just left 16 years of Labor+Greens government and was in desperate financial straits. SA is coming up to elections at the 16 year mark for the Labor government, where the blame for the same failure to think ahead lies. Labor is desperate to get through the coming summer without blackouts just before the election.
    The State government has always boasted about its drive to renewables, including demolishing the shut down coal fired power stations, and their switch to building a gas fired plant is merely “taking decisive action”. Curiously they are reticient about the installation of diesel generators taking place.

    Re your comment about “turn to fossil fuels” as Tennyson might have put it
    “Problems to the right, problems ahead, into the Valley of Darkness galloped the gullible 6 hundred.”

  6. Mjw says:

    Just when we were running out of things to make fun of the Croweaters about along comes this.

  7. […] I genuinely thought this article was a parody on the SA energy debacle when I first read about it via our friend’s over at Tallbloke’s Talkshop! […]

  8. BoyfromTottenham says:

    Hi from Oz. What will it take for the South Australian and Tasmanian governments to come to their senses and admit that ONLY coal, gas, Uranium and stored hydro can generate the reliable, synchronous, dispatchable base load power that is essential for affordable and reliable grid power, and that achieving this and simultaneously ‘reducing CO2 emissions’ by the use of any amount of non-reliable, non-synchronous, non-dispatchable, non-baseload scale ‘renewables’ is technically impossible? In short, they need to understand that they can have one or the other, but not both. Furthermore, pretending that they can rely on external sources of power (e.g. interstate interconnectors to import power from neighbouring Australian states) to solve this practical problem is simply a mirage (or in plainer English, a confidence trick on the voter).
    Unfortunately, if all our governments don’t come to their senses soon, the economics of the base load power industry will have been totally undermined by the pernicious Large-Scale Renewable Energy Target (LRET) or its equivalent, which for us is a A$ 6 billion a year hidden tax on consumers which subsidises large-scale wind and solar generators through increased retail electricity prices, at well as forcing base load generators to accept this useless, high cost, non-dispatchable ‘renewable’ power in lieu of their own reliable, low cost base load power, driving them into bankruptcy due to low utilisation of their generating plant. And who will take the blame when this happens?

  9. oldbrew says:

    There’s a reason renewables are called unreliables, but not many leaders seem to have heard about it.
    Or if they have, they’re not interested until things inevitably start going wrong.

  10. oldbrew says:

    Home News Queensland
    JUNE 20 2017

    Rising power bills force Qld families to switch to candles, cold water: welfare expert

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/rising-power-bills-force-qld-families-to-switch-to-candles-cold-water-welfare-expert-20170620-gwulcd.html
    – – –
    Rocketing Power Prices Mean Australia’s Renewable Energy Target is Unsustainable and Ready to Implode

    https://stopthesethings.com/2017/06/25/rocketing-power-prices-mean-australias-renewable-energy-target-is-unsustainable-and-ready-to-implode/

    They’re now proposing ‘a “reliability obligation” on wind and solar farms to require them to install batteries or other back-up power for reliability.’
    – – –
    Now Aussies can’t even turn to cricket to cheer themselves up…

    Australian cricketers ‘facing unemployment’ over payments row

    More than 200 of Australia’s senior cricketers will be “unemployed as of 1 July”, says Australian Cricketers’ Association president Greg Dyer.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40414731

    Dyer-bolical!

  11. BoyfromTottenham says:

    Stop the LRET! The Hepburn Wind Cooperative gets 60% of its revenue from selling ‘renewable energy’ certificates (i.e. a huge hidden subsidy) but only 30% from selling the ‘wind’ energy’ that they create, and thereby generates a tidy 20% profit for selling a product that no sensible person would buy. See here for yourself: https://www.hepburnwind.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/FY16_Hepburn-Wind-Annual-Report-.pdf
    At the same time energy retailers must buy these useless certificates at $73/MW, thus inflating the cost of their base load power to their customers in proportion to the amount of ‘renewable’ energy the subsidised wind and solar market delivers. Do you see the pernicious beauty of this LRET scheme? It simultaneously invisibly enriches the renewables industry and impoverishes the traditional base load generators who while the can generate power at less than $10/MW, are being driven into bankruptcy. Just wait until the amount of base load generation drops below the point where the state cannot recover from a ‘black start’.

  12. oldbrew says:

    South Australia power prices to rise to highest in the world on Saturday, energy expert warns
    By Isabel Dayman

    South Australia will overtake Denmark as having the world’s most expensive electricity when the country’s major energy retailers jack up their prices this Saturday.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-28/sa-has-most-expensive-power-prices-in-the-world/8658434
    – – –
    Turkish powerships don’t come cheap either 😦

  13. E.M.Smith says:

    Looks to me like the foljs down under need to start making their own…
    world.honda.com/power/cogenerator/

    Works on natural gas, but I think an LPG Bottle gas option exists. Most things that do one can be converted to do the other.

    So just say no to grid rates and unreliables…

  14. E.M.Smith says:

    Let’s try that URL again… home scale cogen for folks down under:

    http://world.honda.com/power/cogenerator/

  15. oldbrew says:

    Climate Institute shuts today
    30 June, 2017 by Simon

    It is no more, it has ceased to be…

    Long before the term fake news was even thought of, the activists at the Climate Institute, headed up by John Connor, were pushing it by the barrowload.

    Now its time is up, going out as it came in, hyping the desire for ‘action’ on climate change as always.

    http://australianclimatemadness.com/2017/06/30/climate-institute-shuts-today/

  16. oldbrew says:

    The Sting: How the Wind Industry Pulled Off the Greatest Con-Job in History
    June 29, 2017 by stopthesethings

    How many lies and falsehoods and exaggerations have been told to make you accept the pointless destruction of what was once a cheap and reliable electricity system?
    Herald Sun

    https://stopthesethings.com/2017/06/29/the-sting-how-the-wind-industry-pulled-off-the-greatest-con-job-in-history/

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