California votes to extend cap-and-trade climate law to 2030

Posted: July 18, 2017 by oldbrew in alarmism, climate, government, ideology, Politics
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Dogma rules in California when it comes to supposed climate issues, as harmless and life-giving trace gas carbon dioxide continues to be treated by the government there as a ‘pollutant’.

California legislators have voted to extend a law to cut carbon emissions, weeks after President Donald Trump said the US would withdraw from the Paris climate accord, reports BBC News.

The policy, which requires firms to purchase permits to release pollutants, will be extended to the year 2030. California Governor Jerry Brown said Republicans and Democrats had taken “courageous action” with the move. The US state aims to cut greenhouse gases by 40% from 1990 levels by 2030.

“Tonight, California stood tall and once again, boldly confronted the existential threat of our time,” Mr Brown said in a statement on Monday. “That’s what good government looks like,” he added.

However, the vote to extend the cap-and-trade programme beyond 2020 was opposed by some conservatives who said the measure would hit the poor by increasing prices for fuel and food.

California State Senator Andy Vidak said it represented a “regressive” tax that would not make any impact on climate change. “We could shut down the entire state of California and it would have no effect on the global climate,” Mr Vidak said.

Full report: California votes to extend cap-and-trade climate law to 2030 – BBC News

  1. dai davies says:

    Like South Australia – canaries in the renewables subsidy mines.

  2. oldbrew says:

    “That’s what good government looks like,” said a politician patting himself on the back for no good reason 😦

  3. gallopingcamel says:

    California suffers from stupid government. What a shame!

    Unfortunately, most of Europe suffers from equally stupid governments that throw billions away on expensive energy projects instead of using the money to address real problems.

    The benefits that CO2 brings are immense so California should be rewarding folks that emit carbon instead of robbing them through “Cap & Trade”.

  4. p.g.sharrow says:

    This is just another tax under a different name.The state is broke from Socialistic Democratic over spending and is scraping up money from any source. They are even stealing funds from small business bank accounts by “accessing” and taking “projected” taxes.”You must pay now and then prove that the they were not due” and you don’t get the money back! Only credit for future taxes that might come due…pg

  5. oldbrew says:

    The money for California’s ‘train to nowhere’ has to come from…er…somewhere.

    Before 2030 ‘the climate’ may well have cooled off a bit, both for the Earth and the rail project.

  6. Only an idiot would believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant.

  7. oldbrew says:

    “We could shut down the entire state of California”.

    They seem to be working on it :/

  8. dscott says:

    To put it simply: A bail out of Tesla on the backs of the poor.

    Poor people can’t afford a $35,000 electric car Tesla Model 3. Why would they when a commuter car would run less than $20,000? Even with the $7,500 US federal rebate, you are still over $7,000 over priced. Meaning the State of California would have to make up the difference. Where does that money come from??? Taxing the poor who pay the gasoline tax.

    Hardly sustainable since even IF the policy was successful in getting people to buy the electric car that would mean a steadily rising gasoline tax to maintain adequate revenues from a shrinking tax base in order to provide the subsidy.

    However, the fall out doesn’t end there since the cost of goods and services are impacted by the gasoline tax and therefore not only will the poor pay more for fuel, they will also pay more for the basics. But then, liberals don’t care about poor people do they? NO, THEY DON’T.

  9. oldbrew says:

    Date: 18/07/17 Wolf Richter, Business Insider

    The California state Assembly passed a $3-billion subsidy program for electric vehicles, dwarfing the existing program. The bill is now in the state Senate. If passed, it will head to Governor Jerry Brown, who has not yet indicated if he’d sign what is ostensibly an effort to put EV sales into high gear, but below the surface appears to be a Tesla bailout.

    – – –
    Tesla Inc (TSLA) Stock Is a Bubble Stock, Plain and Simple

    TSLA stock is in a bubble, and it’s just waiting to pop
    By Dana Blankenhorn, InvestorPlace Contributor | Jun 27, 2017

    There is no fundamental argument to explain how TSLA stock commands a $63 billion market capitalization, considering that this outfit sports trailing-year revenue of $7 billion and no profits, ever.

  10. renewableguy says:

    Its quite a process to get politics to work in California. Theyy had to do this by super majority meaning 2/3’s vote. It is truly deomocracy in action at this kind of voting level.

    Republicans Help Carry the Vote

    Ultimately, eight Republicans in the Assembly voted for the cap-and-trade legislation, and three Democrats voted against it. On the Senate side, one Republican joined the Democrats.

    “Republicans and Democrats set aside their differences, came together and took courageous action,” Brown said in a statement after the vote. “That’s what good government looks like.”

    Many groups credited Brown’s weeklong crusade for getting the legislation passed.

    “This has been a great process,” said Erica Morehouse, an attorney with the Environmental Defense Fund, which supported the legislation, “with people and interest groups from across the spectrum talking to each other, and the governor himself putting enormous personal energy into driving the package forward.”

  11. oldbrew says:

    California Sues Oil Companies For Rising Sea Levels
    by Andrew Follett

    Three California counties sued 37 of the world’s largest oil and coal companies Monday for damages related to global warming-induced sea level rise.
    . . .
    The San Francisco Chronicle called the lawsuits a “first-of-its-kind challenge that some liken to the high-stakes litigation of the tobacco industry in the 1990s.”

    However, the case has huge legal hurdles, and a similar lawsuit by an Alaskan town in 2008 was thrown out of court.
    – – –
    Stretching credulity to the limit and beyond.

  12. E.M.Smith says:

    Well, old Jerry Brown is called “Governor Moonbeam” for a reason. During his first term, in the 70s, he cancelled road building mid construction. Then sold the right of way. For decades there were overpasses 60 feet in the air notconnected to any roads. Later, we got to buy the houses that had been built on the right of way and eventually build the I-85 freeway. $ millions, many of them, squandered on stupid.

    So he’s just doing what he’s always done.

    The good news is even more people will be following businesses as they move to Texas.

    In silicon valley, blocks of older (1950) era buildings that are Iconic California (single story, often tile roof) are being demolished and replaced with Agenda 21 style 4 to 5 story mixed blocks of apartments and retail. The view of the surrounding mountains, gone. So as the productive businesses are replaced with retail and housing, the question of where folks will work is unanswered. We can’t all just buy things…

    Oh, and lots more foreigners living here now. California may not drop in total population, but it is definitly losing the historic productive segment in favor of folks from abroad who have less and expect less. (Lots more Indian restaurants now, many Chinese buying properties, Spanish common with laborers and shelf stockers, many more burkas in the hospital waiting room now) I’ve lived here for about 40 years, and watched the changes as various groups moved in, and out. The restaurants are good indicators. German and Continental reduced when Korean and Vietnamese rose 30 years back. Japanese was a trend for a while as companies like Fujitsu bought US companies. Now Indian food dominates in some areas and middle eastern rising.

    So can California support itself just by importing immigrants? Is there a subsidy farming industry in “refugee” support programs? California will be finding out… but without me. Spouse & I are making plans to leave…

    This latest tax hike was reputed to add 60 cents to the gas tax. California already runs about $1/gallon above the rest of the country. At $1.60 “extra” that’s enough to drive many other industries out (as gas price reflects in goods and transport costs). Even little things, like driving to Florida, will be changed. Even with a few more miles, it is now cheaper to get out of California fast, via Reno Nevada, than to drive to L.A. and take I-10 through the desert. All the gas sales, meals, whatever, that I had spent on that 8 hour run to Arizona, now will be spent in Nevada and Utah. I-80 not I-10 or I-40. It is worth about $30 just to change roads, at that tax level.

    Oh Well, at least California can serve as a good bad example…

  13. oldbrew says:

    New Video : Just When You Thought California Couldn’t Get Any Stupider
    Posted on July 19, 2017 by tonyheller

    TH looks at the latest law suit against ‘big oil’.

  14. ivan says:

    oldbrew, if they try that they will have to show some real science which will trip them up.

    I assume they hope the oil companies will think about settling out of court rather than face the fake science these greens will come up with.

  15. oldbrew says:

    ivan – aka extortion.
    – – –
    Skeptics are heretics of new climate church
    Tue, 07/18/2017

    ‘Climate science may have advanced since the first weather satellite was launched — all the way back in 1960 — but it’s still in infancy. Hubris alone drives claims of infallibility.’

  16. gallopingcamel says:

    Like you I am trying to figure out where to live. Fifty years ago my boss retired to San Francisco. I asked him why and he convinced me how wonderful California was in general and SFO in particular.

    Somehow stoopid government managed to mess up a demi-paradise.

  17. oldbrew says:

    by The Elephant’s Child
    July 21, 2017

    Dr. Hanson speaks of the wealthiest state, the Golden State, and where has California gone wrong? California was supposed to be the answer or the guide to a better future for the rest of the world, with the best climate, the best universities, the most beautiful state with lovely beaches, redwood forests, Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, bountiful farmlands and citrus groves — what happened?