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Insightful if somewhat depressing look at Brexit realpolotik…
The British Prime Minister’s determination to sell out on Brexit is really an acceptance of geopolitical realities as her allies see them. The window available for voters to have their will prevail will be closed….after their Rights have been tossed out of it.
There were only two phrases uttered by Theresa May yesterday of any interest to the 68% of Brits who now want Brexit to go ahead….and who tend to add in research, “So can we just bloody get on with it?”
Mrs Mayormaynot told her audience she wanted “a treaty with the EU”, and that come what may, “The British People are in control”. The first contradicted the second, and the latter is a lie anyway. Nobody has asked us whether we want a treaty with the EU (for myself, I emphatically don’t want any treaty at all with illiberal control freaks) and if the People were…
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The EU negotiators must make sure it seem that the UK will get a very bad deal .
This is to deter other countries following the UK’s lead
The dithering of Mrs May and Corbyn makes it appear that the UK is in a very weak position.
So this plays right into the EU’s hand
The opposite is in fact the case, the EU needs the UK more than we need them.
We need a fresh election with MP’s forced to pick ‘in’ or ‘out’ of the EU.
This should be a short parliamentary session limited to implementing the leaving process.
Forget present party labels for two years.
Two national coillitions should be formed one repesenting the leavers and one those who wish to stay in the EU.
Out should be specified as being prepared to leave with no deal if necessary.
Bryan: Too late, Article 50 has been triggered.
Once Article 50 is triggered, there is a two-year time limit to complete negotiations. If negotiations do not result in a ratified agreement, the seceding country and EU would follow World Trade Organisation rules on tariffs.
This article was used for the first and so far only time by the United Kingdom on 29 March 2017.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_50_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union
He is correct the Conservatives, bar a few, did not and still do not want to leave the EU.
You can tell by the successive delays at each stage.
Cameron said he would invoke Article 50 immediately after the Referendum, even though they had no plan for losing the referendum and didn’t, instead he delayed by resigning and setting a late date.
May took over and built in enough delays to allow the Legal and Parliamentary challenges, which created more delay.
She then created a delay before invoking Article 50.
She called an Election and created policies that made it look like they deliberately wanted to lose, or weaken their position.
Now she totally backs off the strong position and gives the EU most of what it wants instead of just standing firm.
It is a master plan and it is working.
Seems the Conservatives are happy to let the UK become the rubbish dump for the EU.
To think I voted Conservative all my life for the UK to end like this.
Enoch Powell spoke the truth.
I hear Farage is coming back.
Second Brexit referendum needed because Leave voters are dying off, Nick Clegg suggests
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/24/second-brexit-vote-needed-leave-voters-dying-nick-clegg-suggests/
Maybe a general election every other year then? We don’t want MPs representing dead voters
“Now she totally backs off the strong position and gives the EU most of what it wants instead of just standing firm.”
Strong position?
Sorry, I missed this, what strong position was it?
Was it this one?
How has this gone?