Isolating the Impact of CO2 on Atmospheric Temperatures; Conclusion is CO2 has No Measurable Impact

Posted: August 3, 2018 by oldbrew in alarmism, climate, Critique, modelling
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CO2islife concludes: ‘If you have to “adjust” the data to make your model work, your model is wrong, it is that simple.’

  1. pameladragon says:

    Of course, this should be obvious to all the carbon-based lifeforms inhabiting this planet….

  2. JB says:

    I take issue with the usage of water vapor being referred to as a gas. I checked the Webster and Oxford dictionaries which specify essentially the same idea. Further, there is no such thing as a “greenhouse” gas, since all gases found in a normally operating greenhouse are the same as found in the atmosphere generally. Greenhouses do not create gases as a direct function of the greenhouse environment. Lastly, the classification of the earth’s atmosphere functioning as a greenhouse is erroneous. The two are neither physically nor functionally identical.

    Technicalities which have little direct bearing on the article for sure. But some day scientific minds are obliged to be more specific if they’re going to accurately characterize the physical world. Many of these climate change ideas are a direct result of misconception and misrepresentation born of a poor choice of words, not the least in physics is the habit of reifying concepts and manufacturing physical relations from it.

  3. oldbrew says:

    Where is the greenhouse in a freely convecting atmosphere?

  4. Stephen Richards says:

    JB says:
    August 4, 2018 at 12:15 am

    Water vapour is technically the gaseous phase of H²O. Steam is not a gas but the emission of water droplets due to kinetic agitation of the water.

  5. stpaulchuck says:

    once we started inventorying the measuring stations and then taking note of the nearly 40% made up temperatures in the reported values it became obvious this whole thing lacked any serious science.

    Most of the missing data is in the “boonies”, known to be cooler in general than cities and other population centers. They then guesstimate a value based on two hot spots. Good grief. Some 1,000 reporting stations in Siberia went off the air on the collapse of the USSR. Now all of Siberia is guesstimated from just a couple cities. Yeah, that’s real scientific.

    Then there’s the cherry picking of temperature analog data. Briffa et al published a paper based only three out of more than 100 trees cut and sampled in northern Russia because they were the only ones that agreed with the idea of AGW. I believe the term is confirmation bias. Also known as complete bull chips.

  6. ren says:

    Relation between geomagnetic field and climate variability. Part 2: Probable mechanism
    N. Kilifarska, V. Bakhmutov, G. Melnik


    In this study we show that correspondence of the main structures of geomagnetic field, near surface air temperature and surface pressure in the mid-latitudes, reported previously in the 1st part of the paper, has its physical foundation. The similar pattern, found in latitude-longitude distribution of the lower stratospheric ozone and specific humidity, allows us to close the chain of causal links, and to offer a mechanism through which geomagnetic field could influence on the Earth’s climate. It starts with a geomagnetic modulation of galactic cosmic rays (GCR) and ozone production in the lower stratosphere through ion-molecular reactions initiated by GCR. The alteration of the near tropopause temperature (by O3 variations at these levels) changes the amount of water vapour in the driest part of the upper troposphere/lower stratosphere (UTLS), influencing in such a way on the radiation balance of the planet. This forcing on the climatic parameters is non-uniformly distributed over the globe, due to the heterogeneous geomagnetic field controlling energetic particles entering the Earth’s atmosphere.

    Stratospheric Intrusions are when stratospheric air dynamically decends into the troposphere and may reach the surface, bringing with it high concentrations of ozone which may be harmful to some people. Stratospheric Intrusions are identified by very low tropopause heights, low heights of the 2 potential vorticity unit (PVU) surface, very low relative and specific humidity concentrations, and high concentrations of ozone. Stratospheric Intrusions commonly follow strong cold fronts and can extend across multiple states. In satellite imagery, Stratospheric Intrusions are identified by very low moisture levels in the water vapor channels (6.2, 6.5, and 6.9 micron). Along with the dry air, Stratospheric Intrusions bring high amounts of ozone into the tropospheric column and possibly near the surface.

    [mod note] paper dated 2015

  7. ren says:

    In periods of low solar activity, ionization of the lower stratosphere increases. Ionization is rapidly increasing from about 10 km.

  8. ren says:

    The amount of water vapor in the upper troposphere decides about surface temperature changes in medium latitudes.

  9. oldbrew says:

    Date: 07/08/18 Dr David Whitehouse, GWPF Science Editor

    No new science, no new scenario and consequently no new cause for panic.
    – – –
    These Hollywood climate alarm scenarios are getting beyond a joke…

  10. oldbrew says:

    Hole in ionosphere is caused by sudden stratospheric warming
    August 7, 2018

    “The large depletions in the nighttime ionosphere shown in this study are potentially important for near-Earth space weather as they may impact how the upper atmosphere responds to geomagnetic storms and influence the occurrence of ionosphere irregularities,” says Nick Pedatella, scientist at the High Altitude Observatory of the National Center for Atmospheric Research.

    Read more at:

  11. Russell Johnson says:

    2018 has been a devastating year for Hawaii and California. They’ve persecuted their population with unbelievable climate regulation and taxes only to pollute the world with deadly carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide with their forest fires and volcanic eruptions. It’s estimated they’ve blown their “greenhouse gas” climate saving quotas for the next 7 to 11 years. Damn, if I lived in either state I would file a class action law suit to get my money back.

    I’m going back to the basement to make more torches, we need plenty when we storm the ivory towers and throw these damn climate hoaxers in the gutter. Are you guys with me?

  12. oldbrew says:

    Russell – why didn’t they chop down some of those trees before it was too late, and stick them in a big biomass plant (ex-coal) like we do in England? 😉

    Now the climate obsessives are whining that nature’s working against them…

    As California Burns, Climate Goals May Go Up In Smoke — Even After the Flames Are Out

    In their Hollywood dream world the whole of California is on fire :/