Further conversation with Gavin Cawley about climate models

Posted: November 8, 2018 by tallbloke in climate, data, IPCC, modelling, radiative theory
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  4. oldbrew says:

    Terminology problem: this ‘greenhouse’ doesn’t have any sides – so it’s not a greenhouse.

  5. ivan says:

    oldbrew, you are not supposed to point out the flaws in the pronouncements of IPCC oracle and its minions, especially when said flaws don’t fit the perceived wisdom of fear, uncertainty and doubt.

    There is also a problem with that picture – the atmosphere doesn’t have a lid on it.

  6. oldbrew says:

    Many problems with the picture 😐

  7. Brett Keane says:

    Data is not good enough for them. Had the same problem with Willis Eschenbach. They only trust models. Never buy a Bridge off such folk!! Good work, and it is hard work. Brett

  8. Stephen Richards says:

    My god. That was a real head banging conversation with a nonentity. Separating the real world from the modelled world seems to be the most difficult exercise a climate scientist can do.

  9. ivan says:

    @Stephen R, I agree with you that it is almost impossible to separate a climate scientist from their models for the simple reason that if they do peek out from their model fantasy land the real world hits them and they haven’t a clue how to deal with that.

    I fear that a much greater effort will be needed to rehabilitate the members of the the church of climatology than any of the brainwashed members of another religious cult.

  10. Agree Stephen R and Ivan.
    Roger why talk to some nonentity that does not understand the basics and is blinded by socialist ideas. Referencing that fool Peirrehumbert is a clue to his political leanings rather than knowledge of factual information. The saying is one should not judge a book by its cover. In Pierrehumbert’s case he looks like a “green” hippy socialist fool which he clearly is. But the book cover is wrong – there are no principles inside, so supporting the saying.

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  13. oldbrew says:

    TB: good story there (Wiki, 6:37 AM) about why Ford’s American customers preferred the Japanese version of a gearbox in their cars to the US one, even though both were made to the same spec.

    Deming: “the performance of anyone is governed largely by the system that he works in”.
    – – –
    Re the tweets: Upton Sinclair — ‘It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.’

  14. oldbrew says:

    We can’t have empirical data interfering with our fancy/fanciful climate theories, can we?

  15. Brett Keane says:

    Deming – a hero of mine……..

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