Wildfire? Homes Burned, People Killed? Must be Global Warming.

Posted: November 13, 2018 by oldbrew in Critique, ideology, Natural Variation, weather
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California  Governor Jerry Brown has said that “hundreds of billions” of dollars could be needed to adapt to man-made global warming in “the span of a few years” The Democrat added that “And it’s not millions, it’s billions and tens and probably hundreds of billions even in the span of a few years. We’ve got lots of work to do.”

California does have a “Climate Adaption Strategy” that is supposed to reduce the vulnerability of populations to the effects of future global warming like higher sea levels, more intense storms and more crop failures.

President Donald Trump said he’d pull federal funding if California did not “remedy” its wildfire problems, which Trump blamed for poor forest management practices for large wildfires.

Brown did mention that better forest management was necessary to getting fires under control, but then went on to say “those who deny” man-made global warming were “definitely contributing”…

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  1. oldbrew says:

    Tuesday, November 13, 2018
    California is in its 7 year drought pattern

    This is the standard pattern for California in-between El Ninos.
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    The California fires will just have to burn out, as they have for millennia. Sucks for all the ‘nouveau riche’ in the mountains. The old guys knew to stay away.

    https://ontario-geofish.blogspot.com/2018/11/california-is-in-its-7-year-drought.html
    – – –
    How true that is can be argued, but the Californian climate hasn’t suddenly turned wild in the last few decades.

  2. oldbrew says:

    Report: The Simple Reason That Humans Can’t Control Wildfires

    Many forest managers know that a certain tract of woodland is due for a catastrophic wildfire in the next decade, but feel they have no political ability to do a controlled burn there—lest it get out of control. If the public understood that huge swaths of Western forest will soon burn, they may be more willing to allow controlled burns when the meteorological conditions are right.

    “Today, it’s completely impossible to say that ‘We need to have a 100,000 acre fire in that forest.’ Any politician or fire manager who brought that up? It would be a death wish for their career,” he said.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/11/california-wildfire-why-humans-cant-control-them/575740/

  3. ivan says:

    It would help if they allowed logging and clearing in the forests but that is something the green ecoloons are dead against because they don’t know anything about forest maintenance and never will.

    I agree the forests are due for a good burn now for the simple reason management has almost been non existent for too long and that will be the only way of clearing them.

  4. oldbrew says:

    Don’t burn the forests, just chop them down and make pellets out of them. Then ship them to the UK for a fat profit and we’ll burn them, creating vast amounts of CO2 and forcing up electricity prices.

    You know it makes sense :/

  5. oldbrew says:

    IT’S ‘NOT CORRECT’ TO BLAME GLOBAL WARMING FOR CALIFORNIA’S WILDFIRES, SCIENTIST SAYS
    13 Nov. 2018

    Indeed, the latest National Climate Assessment special report found there’s only a “low to medium confidence for a detectable human climate change contribution in the western United States based on existing studies.” That report was published in 2017.

    Most California fires are human caused, and while the number of fires is decreasing, the size of fires in some parts of California have grown, past research shows. Some scientists say global warming has helped dry out vegetation in the west, making the region more vulnerable to fire.

    But as Mass noted, California is dry enough this time of year to spark massive wildfires even without any global warming. It’s local weather, primarily low humidity and Santa Ana winds, that make the state vulnerable to fires.

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/13/jerry-brown-not-correct-wildfires/
    – – –
    National Parks Service: Fire’s Role in a Sequoia Forest
    https://www.nps.gov/seki/learn/nature/fic_firerole.htm

  6. p.g.sharrow says:

    Now that my situation has stabilized I can point out the cause of this Camp Fire disaster. While poor fuels management caused by the Ecoloons of the area, specially those in the local government was a major factor. The fire storm that swept through Paradise/Magalia was caused by a rare fluke of geography and weather.
    To the south of me and to the north of Paradise/Magalia is a tall ridge that looms over the rolling hills that the town sprawl covers in a mature Pine forest. This DoeMill Ridge was in direct line to block and lift the North Wind that blew against it. causing an up draft that sucked air from the South where the fire started toward the north over the city. between that city and the ridge is a deep canyon that funneled the return flow to the west towards Chico over the only hiway leading down out of the area. A Fire Storm swept south to north and then east to west over the people fleeing the area in their normal directions on the normal way of getting into and out of the area.
    Now that the fire has traveled to the west and out of the shadow of the ridge the north wind is pushing the fire towards the south and Oroville.
    https://pgtruspace.wordpress.com/2018/11/11/the-camp-fire/ is a recount of my adventures over the last week in this campfire…pg

  7. oldbrew says:

    Sounds like a close shave there, p.g. 😐

  8. ren says:

    Circulation is still not good for northern California. Still the wind from the north.
    http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mtpw2/product.php?color_type=tpw_nrl_colors&prod=namer&timespan=24hrs&anim=html5
    During solar minimum California can not rely on rainfall associated with El Niño.

  9. oldbrew says:

    California’s Deadliest Fire Is Seen Engulfing Paradise in ‘Astonishing’ Satellite Images
    November 16, 2018

    https://www.livescience.com/64108-camp-fire-engulfs-paradise-astonishing-satellite-images.html

  10. oldbrew says:

    How Misguided Environmentalism Is To Blame For California’s Wildfires

    “There’s an old adage that excess timber comes out of the forest one way or the other. It’s either carried out, or it burns out”
    . . .
    A 2017 report from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) states that 129 million trees have died in California’s forests since 2010. The USDA report agrees with Trump — California’s forests suffer from neglect and mismanagement.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/16/misguided-environmentalism-blame-californias-wildfires/

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