Australians could get $2000 cash back for homes that go solar

Posted: November 24, 2018 by oldbrew in Energy, Politics, Subsidies
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Image credit: sunpower.com.au


Saving money thanks to government subsidies always invites the question: who is really paying for the offer? No prizes for guessing.

Labor wants Australian suburbs to run on batteries through a plan to subsidise solar power storage for thousands of households, reports news.com.au.

And it believes the plan could cut electricity bills by 60 per cent.

The battery rebate of $2000, which Labor would first offer to 100,000 households, is a prominent element of the energy policy Labor leader Bill Shorten will take to the next election.

The scheme, to be outlined by Mr Shorten today, is calculated to cost $215.9 million over four years and Labor wants a million battery powered residences by 2025.

Mr Shorten will also indicate he remains prepared to discuss revival of the National Energy Guarantee, the proposal which disappeared with the removal of Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister. It was intended to lower prices and give industry stability and certainty on power generation.

Mr Shorten will argue the nation is in an energy crisis under the Coalition with prices rising by close to 19 per cent over the past three years – three times faster than wages growth.

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Comments
  1. Bitter@twisted says:

    Bit early for April fool isn’t it?
    However Shorten is a typical leftist fool.

  2. ivan says:

    Only problem there is the batteries large enough to do any good for a household are going to cost a lot more than that and, in most cases, there will also need an upgrading of the inverter to be able to use the batteries. In fact it is nothing more than a virtue signalling exercise to try and gain votes. Most people that will be conned by this rill require replacement batteries long before thea have finished paying for the first lot.

  3. JB says:

    “The welfare of the people…has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience….”–Albert Camus

    “If stupidity got us into this mess, why can’t it get us out?” –Will Rogers

  4. p.g.sharrow says:

    For the total cost of this, power plants could be built that would solve the supply problem for 40 years. 4 times longer then the batteries would last. Only a Liberal Progressive could believe this is a good idea.The pollution from creation and disposal of that many batteries would be more then any reduction in CO2 created at the power plant. Only an Ecoloon could love such a stupid idea…pg

  5. Graeme No.3 says:

    Ivan:
    I calculated that if a sucker installed a battery in accordance with the scheme it would require the price of electricity to double before it was paid for in its anticipated life time.
    I have great confidence that Bill Shorten will achieve that rise.

  6. oldbrew says:

    They are in denial that their ‘solutions’ are unworkable on the national scale. Batteries don’t charge themselves and gigawatts of elec. storage costs a fortune.

  7. stpaulchuck says:

    they’ll need the two grand for the candles to see by

  8. dai davies says:

    Prices have doubled in the last decade.

  9. Graeme No.3 says:

    stpaulchuck:
    No problem.
    Tasmania, when their renewables basis failed, had to install diesel generators (and restart a gas plant).
    South Australia installed diesel plants (actually Open Cycle Gas Plants fueled by what fuel was available), but the biggest gas user is building a replacement generation plant using gas fueled engines (translation: diesel engines) as these offer more flexibility over startup times, availability and less costs than Open Cycle plants. (peakers to the gullible who think they combine the lower cost and CO2 emissions of Closed Cycle Gas Plants with availability and startup times that suit their renewables fantasies – they’re wrong.)
    Victoria is installing diesel fueled Open Cycle plants without mentioning what they cost to run.
    Onward and downward with diesel (except the costs).

  10. oldbrew says:

    graeme – so an Aussie opting for an electric car could in effect be running it on diesel, some of the time at least.

  11. Gamecock says:

    The marketplace created centralized power production. Government meddling in that marketplace will destroy centralized power production. Lost will be economies of scale and reliability. Dispersal will also make pollution control difficult.

    Don’t fall for the silly solar schtick: go straight to having a diesel generator installed to power your house. If you are going to have to make your own power, diesel is the way to go.

  12. oldbrew says:

    Roger Andrews sums it up:

    Obviously a commercial-scale storage technology much cheaper than batteries is going to be needed before the world’s electricity sector can transition to intermittent renewables. The problem is that there isn’t one.

    http://euanmearns.com/the-cost-of-wind-solar-power-batteries-included/
    – – –
    But let’s carry on chasing rainbows anyway, as long as it’s someone else’s money being spent :/

  13. Ve2 says:

    Just another Labor brain fart to bring in the voters, $2,000 subsidy for a $10,000 battery system that is supposed to store power from a solar power system that fits onto the roof of a block of flats or high density housing.
    I don’t think so.
    They also claim you can recharge it at night using mystical renewable energy when the only reliable power is coal.
    Victoria has just voted in a lunatic that wants 40% renewables by 2030.
    As. I write wind and solar power was turning out 182 Mw out of the 4150Mw demand. Hydro is turning out 258Mw but that comes from the Snowy and cannot be increased.

  14. Gamecock says:

    ‘Storage’ is the belief that lack of generation capacity can be replaced by some D cells. Only generation can backup generation.

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