Germany’s Renewable Energy Fail: German CO2 Emissions 10 Times Higher than Nuclear-Powered France

Posted: January 6, 2019 by oldbrew in Critique, Emissions, Energy, government, wind
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Monetising the wind isn’t going to solve anyone’s electricity supply problems. Exactly the reverse is far more likely.


The meme has it that wind and solar are all about slashing CO2 emissions, whereas that pathetic pair are just a colossal moneymaking scam.

Apart from South Australia, no country other than Germany threw more at chaotically intermittent wind and solar.

The results have been an utter debacle: Germans suffer the second highest power prices in Europe, just behind wind ‘powered’ Denmark, and those prices are rocketing north at double-digit rates. The German grid is on the brink of collapse.

And all in an effort to curb emissions of carbon dioxide gas. Leaving aside arguments about whether CO2 is a toxic pollutant or a naturally occurring beneficial trace gas which plants crave, if the primary object of Germany’s ‘transition’ to an all wind and sun powered future was cutting carbon dioxide gas emissions, the result has been a dismal failure – that’s cost Germans more than a €Trillion, so…

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  1. ivan says:

    Adding insult to Macron’s stupid green tax on fuel we have his even more stupid idea of replacing the reliable nuclear power plants with a forest of bird mincers, three quarters of which down in my area don’t do anything because of wrong placement, although they do generate good subsidies for the owners.

    The annoying thing for the village is the fact there is a dam across the river that was built to create a large lake to provide water for fire fighting (a fantastic sight when the water bombing aircraft skim across the surface picking up a load of water and then climb out over the dam). When it was built provision was made for water turbines to be installed but they never were (all the infrastructure is there including the large substation). When the village asked for the turbines to be installed we were refused but we could have a few wind turbines instead – the wind turbines were voted down then and have been every time the proposal has appeared again, as has the installation of linky (smart meters) in the village.

    I may be wrong, but the shutting down of the nuclear power plants could be the next thing we peasants will be objecting to if the lord high mucky muck persists in his green ways.

  2. richard verney says:

    I have been pointing out for years, that wind and solar do not reduce CO2. On their primary objective, they are a complete fail (leaving behind the cynical view that they are simply intended to be subsidy farming money transferring wealth from the poor to the rich).

    And the same is so with electric cars. These do not reduce CO2, in fact they increase CO2, unless powered from a grid which is largely composed of natural hydro (such as Norway and Switzerland) or nuclear (such as France). For Germany, the use of electric cars increases the amount of CO2 produced. If you are a CO2 freak, then worryingly, the use of electric cars in China also results in a net increase in CO2.

  3. tom0mason says:

    I wonder how the wind and solar are doing as Germany gets blanketed in snow?

  4. oldbrew says:

    tom – solar zilch, wind about 15% of total.

    So much for squillions of Euros frittered away on these totally unreliable sources :/

    NB that UK figure of 10% in the last 10 years doesn’t look right. Prices went up nearly 6% in the last 12 months.

    Click to access QEP_Q3_2018.pdf

  5. oldbrew says:

    No electric car revolution either…

    04 Jan 2019
    Share of pure electric vehicles in Germany’s new car registrations rises to one percent in 2018

    [95% were petrol or diesel]

    And how many of those one percent were
    a) not the only or main transport in the household?
    b) business users chasing tax concessions?

  6. oldbrew says:

    Building wind farms in England is pointless because it isn’t windy enough… according to the boss of Britain’s biggest wind power firm

    Chief of Scottish Power said he’ll only put up new turbines in Scotland and Wales

    He told The Mail on Sunday that although he believes the future of the UK’s electricity will come from wind, there is not enough wind or suitable land in England to make any new project financially viable.
    – – –
    Idle wind farms pull in £125m for dumping energy
    January 6 2019, The Sunday Times

    Scots turbines get most of National Grid payoff

  7. ivan says:

    Idle wind farms pull in £125m for dumping energy

    That begs the question of how much do idle CCGT and COAL units pull in when they have to dump energy in favour of intermittent wind? I assume they get nothing yet are expected to be on standby for when the wind stops blowing. Rather unfair, maybe we should just dump wind power completely as being too expensive and too unreliable or make the owners of the subsidy farms guarantee X amount of energy supply per month with very heavy penalties if they don’t deliver.

  8. A C Osborn says:

    Unfortunately that article did not have the Comparison Chart of the CO2 changes aongside the investment and prices..
    Because it talks about failure to reduce CO2 and then dosn’t show it.

  9. richard verney says:

    @AC Osborn

    If you search no tricks zone, you will find data on Germany’s CO2 emissions. This site frequently posts articles on German Wind. Eg>,

    The take home plot:

  10. richard verney says:

    From my above post, one can clearly see the flat lining in CO2 emissions since 2009.

    In 2009, Germany emitted some 908 million tonnes, in 2016 this had increased slightly to 909 million tonnes, and in 2017, it was 905 million tonnes. This plot does not include 2018 data, but this is approximately the same, if I recall correctly slightly up on 2017 emissions.

    According to Wikipedia Germany has increased the amount of renewables by about 60% during the relative period and yet no reduction in CO2 has been achieved by this increase!


  11. richard verney says:

    Very sorry to post in bits and pieces, but it is useful to point out that where Germany has succeeding in reducing CO2 emissions is from the reunification of Germany (circa 1990), and either closing down heavy polluting East German Industry or modernising it making it more efficient. This resulted in quite a significant reduction in the 12 to 15 years following reunification.

    It has served Germany well to use this as a start point.

    But Germany has not been able to reduce its CO2 emissions as a result of its renewable energy project of rolling out wind and solar. Once the penetration of these exceeded the spare capacity in the grid (usually about 5 to 8% over capacity to meet unexpected high demands), there has been no further CO2 reduction with the increased use and percentage of renewables in the system.

    This will be highlighted when Germany needs to file its next intermediate report in compliance with the Paris Accord. It will show that Germany is not on target of meeting its 2030 commitments.

    Ironically, that of all developed nations only the US which has pulled out of the Paris Accord will be able to significantly reduce CO2 emissions, and this is due to its policy on fracking. Apart from nuclear, the only proven way of reducing CO2 is by using a greater percentage of fracked gas as the primary energy source.

    greens should love fracking, since it reduces CO2 without the risks associated with nuclear. But Greens have never been about reducing CO2 emissions per se but rather about de-industrialisation of Western Societies.

  12. oldbrew says:

    Germany is committed to closing its nuclear plants, as well as coal ones. Closing nuclear leaves a gap that wind can’t fill, so more gas seems likely.

  13. oldbrew says:

    But whose gas will Germany use?

    Date: 08/01/19 Bloomberg

    Support in German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s coalition for a major new Russian gas pipeline is slipping as frustration with the Kremlin’s brinkmanship grows and pressure from U.S. President Donald Trump starts to bite.

    Nord Stream 2, an $11 billion project that will double the natural gas supply under the Baltic Sea to Germany, faces growing skepticism among German officials who had previously defended it against criticism from Trump and some European Union allies, according to senior lawmakers. The shift could translate into pressure on Merkel’s government to back down on the controversial pipeline and possibly delay its implementation.

  14. Ned Nikolov says:

    Pushing unreliable wind/solar power as a replacement of stable energy technologies in the name of “saving” Earth’s climate from “overheating” by a minor trace gas is nothing less than a manifestation of a collective human INSANITY and a low IQ!

    We should be ashamed of ourselves as a species!!

  15. oldbrew says:

    Hard to believe that Climategate was nearly 10 years ago, but the madness continues unabated.

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