Germans at loggerheads over Autobahn speed limits

Posted: January 27, 2019 by oldbrew in Emissions, Politics, Travel
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It’s claimed that ‘new speed limits would lower Germany’s carbon dioxide emission level by less than 0.5 percent’, reports Limits already apply in some places, but climate propaganda has turned ’emissions’ into a political issue.

A majority of Germans approve of imposing a maximum speed limit on the country’s Autobahns, a survey published at the weekend indicated.

Fifty-two percent of those polled agreed that speeds of between 120 and 140 kilometers per hour (kph) (75 to 87 miles per hour) would be appropriate to help tackle climate change, according to the Emnid Institute survey, published by the Bild am Sonntag newspaper. Forty-six percent opposed such limits.

The view by albeit a narrow majority of Germans contrasts with the view of Transport Minister Andreas Scheuer who remains opposed to any speed limits, saying they are “against all common sense.”

Rejecting safety concerns, Scheuer, a conservative from the southern state of Bavaria — the home of carmakers Daimler and Audi, insisted that: “German Autobahns are the safest road in the world.”

Freedom more important

“The principle of freedom has proven itself,” Scheuer told the newspaper. “Whoever wants to drive at 120 (kilometers per hour) can drive at 120. Whoever wants to drive faster is allowed to do that too.”

The term “Freie Fahr für Bürger” (Unrestricted driving for citizens) has been a catchphrase since the 1970s that has allowed Germans to traverse much of the country’s freeway network at any speed.

Around 30 percent of German highways, some 7,640 kilometers (4,747 miles), already have speed limits, according to Scheuer.

The concept is, of course, strongly endorsed by the nation’s powerful auto lobby, who have a reputation for building some of the world’s most powerful cars.

Most German manufacturers, however, do limit the top speeds of most of their cars to 250 kph.

Continued here.

  1. oldbrew says:

    Autobahn blast – speed shown in lower right corner…

  2. Dan Pangburn says:

    All reporting agencies continue to agree there has been little or no sustained increase in average global temperature since 2002
    CO2 has increased since 2002 by 40% of the increase 1800 to 2002
    Apparently CO2 has little if any effect on average global temperature (or any other aspect of climate)

  3. stpaulchuck says:

    another Jimmy Carter idiocy – rationing instead of market based decisions. If public safety in the form of millions dead of CO2 induced burning Earth then perhaps that would be a thing to do.

    However, there is no longer a correlation between CO2 and global temperature. Real temperatures that is, not the molested and tortured “final” reported temperatures.

    Regular readers here are familiar with wonderful papers like Nikolov and Zeller’s and so many others on celestial mechanics and thermodynamics and chemistry that offer provable, falsifiable SCIENCE to indicate major actors in our climate temperature variations. That isn’t going to stop the scam artists from getting a few million more bucks out of the pockets of the rubes (and us as a side effect).

  4. Gamecock says:

    It really is that simple, Dan. CO2 has gone up; global mean temperature has not tracked it. No correlation. That should settle the science.

  5. oldbrew says:

    Doing 150+ mph on a busy public road is probably not a good idea anyway. Even 100 mph means other drivers need to be good judges of what they see approaching in their mirrors.

  6. oldbrew says:

    Electric cars will not stop rising oil demand, says energy agency chief

    Electric car use may be growing exponentially, but they are doing little to curb rising carbon emissions and oil demand, the head of the International Energy Agency (IEA) said on Tuesday.
    . . .
    “Where does the electricity come from, to say that electric cars are a solution to our climate change problem? It is not,” Birol said.

    “Even if there were 300 million [electric cars] with the current power generation system, the impact in terms of CO2 emissions is less than 1% – nothing. If you can’t decarbonise [the power sector], C02 emissions will not be going down. It may be helpful for the local pollution, but for global emissions it is not.” [bold added]
    – – –
    Emissions mania is going nowhere fast.

  7. stpaulchuck says:

    oldbrew says:
    January 28, 2019 at 7:16 pm

    Electric cars make some sense for high density very large urban areas or ones like Phoenix or Mexico City that are in a bowl like geography that tends to hold the exhaust components in place. You transfer the pollution elsewhere, typically the ‘wide open spaces’ far from town.

    However, the writer is bang on. You can’t power a large fleet of electric vehicles with windmills and solar panels so bad nasty old traditional power has to be on line. With current stack cleaning tech and more natgas units on line the air pollution numbers have been declining for decades anyway.

    CO2 is plant food.

  8. oldbrew says:

    StP – the writer is bang on

    It’s not the writer, it’s the head of the International Energy Agency (IEA) .
    – – –
    Game over…

    German government rules out autobahn speed limit
    Date 28.01.2019

    Germany’s federal government has rejected proposals to impose speed limits on the country’s autobahn network. Leaked proposals to introduce restrictions had triggered a heated debate in the car-loving country.
    . . .
    “There are more intelligent control mechanisms than a general speed limit,” government spokesman Steffen Seifert told reporters in Berlin.

  9. Gamecock says:

    ‘German government rules out autobahn speed limit
    Date 28.01.2019’

    Thank God. Freedom reigns.

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