Labour abandons climate change plan for net zero carbon emissions by 2030

Posted: November 18, 2019 by oldbrew in Emissions, Energy, News, Politics
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So the plan was only virtue signalling to try and impress gullible voters, not an actual belief that the climate needs saving any time soon. Does the UK really want inadequate, unreliable and expensive electricity in perpetuity?

Labour has dropped a radical plan to end the UK’s contributions to climate change by 2030 and will stick to a target of achieving it “well before 2050”, reports The Independent via Yahoo News.

Activists passed a motion at the party’s conference in September to dramatically speed up the date for net zero carbon emissions – pushing for inclusion in the general election manifesto.

But Barry Gardiner, Labour’s shadow business secretary, said that 2030 target would apply only to efforts to decarbonise power production.

“What we will be doing is that we will have our power sector 90 per cent powered by renewables by 2030,” he said.

“That is absolutely in line with achieving the overall target that we have set to make sure that, well before 2050, we have achieved the net zero.”

The decision will anger a growing Labour grassroots group, which has announced a campaign to persuade the public to vote for the 2030 target – on the expectation it would be in the manifesto.

Continued here.

Comments
  1. oldbrew says:

    Paul Homewood writes on his blog:

    The Committee on Climate Change have estimated their Net Zero plan will eventually cost £50bn a year, about £1800 per household. Independent experts, including Philip Hammond believe this to be a gross underestimate.

    Climate Change

    But, I hear you say, surely we have no alternative, if we are to “save the planet”?

    The problem here is that the UK’s emissions are only 1% of the global total, which continues to rise. In other words, whatever we do will have no effect whatsoever on the climate.

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/11/17/majority-of-uk-public-back-2030-zero-carbon-target/
    – – –
    In any case the assumption that the trace gas carbon dioxide is a problem, or the problem, is shaky to say the least.
    = = =
    61% gas and coal this morning = 4 x wind and solar…

    “What we will be doing is that we will have our power sector 90 per cent powered by renewables by 2030,” he said.

    Pie in the sky.

  2. Dave Ward says:

    “What we will be doing is that we will have our power sector 90 per cent powered by renewables by 2030,” he said

    Which is still virtue signalling pie in the sky…

  3. Gamecock says:

    ‘“What we will be doing is that we will have our power sector 90 per cent powered by renewables by 2030,” he said.’

    The other 10% won’t exist. Hence you will be 100 per cent powered by renewables. And when it’s down, you are out.

    At around 30% penetration of the market by renewables, it becomes financially difficult to justify other sources. Being ‘backup’ doesn’t pay the fixed cost. At 90% penetration, there will be no backup. None.

    It is so self evident, one wonders how people like Gardiner can be so abjectly stupid. And how the press just nod their heads in agreement.

    BWTM: How you gonna build that in 11 years? You can’t come close. It is impossible.

  4. Gamecock says:

    ‘The problem here is that the UK’s emissions are only 1% of the global total, which continues to rise. In other words, whatever we do will have no effect whatsoever on the climate.’

    I repeat for the forty eleventh time: human emissions of carbon dioxide are 1/25 of natural sources. UK’s 1% is of the HUMAN sources, accounting for ZERO POINT ZERO FOUR PERCENT OF EMISSIONS.

    Ce n’est rien.
    De nada.
    It is nothing.

    Go ahead and screw over your economy – your country – for 0.04%.

    Should the UK proceed, we will see a new wave of immigration to the Americas and Australia. Your citizens aren’t going to just sit there and watch the destruction of their world.

  5. cognog2 says:

    As I suspect; Labour operates on Twitter politics. Heaven help us!

  6. oldbrew says:

    Are they including nuclear as renewable? Otherwise it makes even less sense to talk about a 90% target by 2030. On a dark winter’s evening at 6 pm with not much wind blowing the power shortages would be severe.

  7. Dave Ward says:

    “Should the UK proceed, we will see a new wave of immigration to the Americas and Australia. Your citizens aren’t going to just sit there and watch the destruction of their world”

    Yes, I’ve thought about this for some time. But, the problem is what happens if (or more likely “When”) pensions are decimated by Liebors financial incompetence? I’m already drawing a BT pension, which is directly in the firing line, thanks to the absurd plan to nationalise broadband provision, and the state pension is limited, with increases not always paid to ex-pats.

    Effectively, we are screwed regardless, if (God forbid) Corbyn & McDonnell get in…

  8. Coeur de Lion says:

    The definitive source is Prof Kelly’s lecture to the Global Warming Policy Foundation dated 11 Nov. He’s a rational engineer and shows that decarbonisation is never going to happen. It is impossible. It requires ‘a whole herd of unicorns’. Highly recommended and should be promoted by the BBC. Ho ho.
    The BBC consistently lies to its taxpayers. It will be found out and then there will be a payback.

  9. stpaulchuck says:

    a target of achieving it “well before 2050”,
    and five years from now… “well before 2075”
    rinse, repeat

  10. oldbrew says:

    Labour policy change not going down well with XR hotheads…

    https://order-order.com/2019/11/18/extinction-rebellion-protest-outside-labour-hq/


    – – –
    Extinction Rebellion kicks off global hunger strike to demand governments to take action on climate change

    Activists in 22 countries are calling on governments to take dramatic action on climate change
    https://inews.co.uk/news/environment/extinction-rebellion-kicks-off-global-hunger-strike-to-demand-governments-to-take-action-on-climate-change-1256111

    Of course there is no ‘dramatic action’ available even if TPTB wanted to take some, but let’s not ruin the plot 🙄

  11. Gamecock says:

    Gee, I hope none of the poor dears starve to death.

    Who is supposed to be bothered by their being hungry?

  12. oldbrew says:

    Yet more climate nonsense…

    NOVEMBER 19, 2019
    EasyJet flies into ‘greenwashing’ row over zero-carbon pledge

    Greenpeace however lashed out at the announcement, labelling it “greenwashing”—a term used by critics to describe corporate efforts to promote often spurious environmental measures to keep customers on board.

    “This is jumbo-size greenwash from EasyJet,” said Greenpeace’s UK chief scientist Doug Parr in comments emailed to AFP.

    “There’s nothing zero-carbon about their airplanes.

    “Expert analysis has cast serious doubts about whether offsetting schemes work at all.”

    https://techxplore.com/news/2019-11-easyjet-zero-carbon-future.html

  13. Gamecock says:

    “Expert analysis has cast serious doubts about whether offsetting schemes work at all.”

    They made Al Gore rich.

  14. oldbrew says:

    Labour’s latest climate wheeze…

    Climate change: Firms failing to tackle crisis will be delisted from stock exchange, Labour says

    John McDonnell tells bosses they must ‘pull their weight’ to help tackle the ‘existential threat’ to the planet

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/climate-change-labour-london-stock-exchange-business-manifesto-mcdonnell-a9208801.html

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