Summer Blackouts Beckon: Australia’s Renewable Energy Debacle Won’t Be Fixed with Batteries

Posted: November 24, 2019 by oldbrew in Critique, Energy, ideology
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The greenblob will have to conjure up some other magic solution to their chronic power intermittency problems, if they hope to keep their ‘zero carbon’ myth going for a bit longer.


Almost as soon as Joe Public worked out that wind and solar can never work, RE rent seekers started babbling about giant batteries saving the day.

STT will keep smashing the line about giant batteries overcoming the chaotic delivery of wind and solar, while RE zealots keep pushing it.

The pitch from RE zealots is that the solution to the chaos delivered by wind and solar is giant lithium-ion batteries, of the kind peddled by Elon Musk.

The reefer-smoking, Californian carpetbagger managed to offload one unit in wind power obsessed, South Australia, collecting $150 million for a battery that would power SA for all of 4 minutes.

Bill Gates has called the idea complete and utter nonsense: Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar: ‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

Apply a little maths, physics and economics and it’s pretty clear that the mega-battery myth is just…

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  1. ivan says:

    What they are seeing in South Australia is what the UK is heading towards with the politicians stupid race for renewables and total de-carbonisation in the near future.

    All I can say is ‘those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it’ and in this case history can be as little as a few years.

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  3. Chapter 26 of Professor Sir David Mackay’s book ‘Sustainable energy- without the hot air’ showed just how impractical battery storage would be to cope with intermittent renewable energy generators. We would need at least 40 times as much pumped hydro storage as we currently have – that is the size of the problem.

  4. oldbrew says:

    They have already run into trouble just trying to keep the existing electricity supply going. If all heating and transport (for example) from fuels is going to be replaced by electricity, the problems look far worse.

  5. Gamecock says:

    The Left is killing centralized power production, with all its efficiency and minimal pollution.

    Get your Generac while you still can.

  6. oldbrew says:

  7. gallopingcamel says:

    You have to love South Australia, the UK, Denmark, Germany etc for demonstrating what stupid government does.

    Here in the USA Donald Trump says he likes to buy badly managed companies as it is easy to make things better.

    He says that the bad management of the last two presidents (Bush & Obama) meant that it was easy to look good in comparison.

    When countries are badly managed you need someone like Donald Trump but all too often you get another pompous ass with no management skills.

  8. oldbrew says:

    Blow-out: Germany’s new climate package might kill off onshore wind
    by L. Michael Buchsbaum
    07 Nov 2019

    With only 500 megawatts of new onshore wind energy coming on-line through September, Germany’s pioneering onshore sector is suffering through its worst year since the beginning of the Energiewende. But instead of helping, the new Climate Package actually sharply reduces onshore wind targets, endangering the whole industry.
    . . .
    Given that the new laws were partially aimed to get Germany back on track after missing its 2020 climate-protection gap, Greenpeace Germany fears that the new package’s lack of ambitions actually ensures the 2030 target also won’t be reached. Instead, said the organization’s Andree Böhlin, “the implementation of the Paris Climate Agreement and the 1.5° C target are now completely out of sight.”
    – – –
    Politics trumps crazed ideology.

  9. David O'Neill says:

    I put this comment on SST, where I discovered this site. If I am wrong, I am still waiting for someone to tell me why.

    Does anyone disagree with the following points?
    1. Large scale, high performance Lithium Ion batteries contain a salt of Lithium hexafluorophosphate.
    2. According to Wikipedia, the common solvents are a mixture of cyclic carbonate esters, such as ethylene carbonate and propylene carbonate, and linear carbonate esters, such as di-methyl carbonate and diethyl carbonate.
    3. The polymer separators can degrade without abuse.
    4. A state of “Thermal Runaway” can be reached without abuse (the industry prefers “Cascading Failure”).
    5. When this happens combustible gases are generated.
    6. The resulting explosion generates a cloud containing Hydrogen Fluoride and Phosphoryl Fluoride, as well as other toxic and corrosive chemicals.
    7. These chemicals can travel for long distances before landing.
    8. No group has investigated such incidents independently and without industry involvement, sound familiar?
    9. It is concerning that there has been no mention in the media of the long term recovery of two of the fire officers at the Arizona incident and a further 12 fire officers linked to an incident relating to a Norwegian Ferry on 10 October 2019, hospitalised ‘due to exposure to hazardous gases associated with the batteries’.
    10. Large battery energy storage systems may also be abused.
    11. A severe accident (or loss of control) of a 10 MW-Hour system could lead to the generation of between 0.35 and 2.22 metric tonnes of these most toxic and corrosive chemicals. For a 50 MW-Hour system it would be 1.75 to 11.1 metric tonnes. For a 100 MW-Hour system it could be 3.5 to 22.2 tonnes and so on.
    12. There are no safe and effective means for responding emergency services personnel to such incidents that would allow them to approach and save neighbouring casualties. This was demonstrated at Drogenbos, Belgium, when it was too late for evacuation and neighbours were advised to close windows and switch off ventilation.
    13. The incidents at Drogenbos, Surprise, and the Norwegian Ferry involved relatively small systems (2 MW- Hours or less). During the firefighting, all of them had re-ignition issues.

    I’ll leave it up to Tallbloke readers to work out what HF and PoF3 can do to you. Please tell me I’m wrong.