Stalemate at UN climate talks as splits re-appear

Posted: December 13, 2019 by oldbrew in alarmism, climate, Politics

Another COP flop seems likely. After the usual fig leaf of the closing declaration, they’ll kick the panic can down the road to the next bloated gab-fest in Glasgow 2020. And so the bickering circus goes on, and on…

UN climate talks in Madrid enter their final scheduled day with divisions emerging between major emitting countries and small island states, reports BBC News.

Negotiators are attempting to agree a deal in the Spanish capital that would see countries commit to make new climate pledges by the end of 2020.

But serious disagreements have emerged over how much carbon-cutting the major emitters should undertake.

The talks have also become bogged down in rows over key technical issues.

Negotiators arrived in Madrid two weeks ago with the words of the UN secretary general ringing in their ears – António Guterres told delegates that “the point of no return is no longer over the horizon”.

Despite his pleas, the conference has become enmeshed in deep, technical arguments about a number of issues including the role of carbon markets and the financing of loss and damage caused by rising temperatures.

Full report here.

  1. ivan says:

    This is expected since the scam must continue and the UN is running out of other peoples money. The whole idea is to bleed the rich nations and give the other the semblance of something for nothing in the hope they will support the UN takeover of the world with its one world government. Fortunately the US president Trump saw through this scam and said NO. Unfortunately the EU and other socialist nations are rushing forwards with this in the hope it will allow them to get more of the peoples money in the name of climate change emergency.

  2. JB says:

    “the point of no return is no longer over the horizon”

    Yes, it just faded away, like mirages do.

  3. hunterson7 says:

    Until the COPs are halted completely the danger will only increase. Fanatics live like fat parasites off this process. They are completely willing and able to slip in very compromising statements and ambiguous commitments that other fanatics will use to pretend there was a meeting of the minds. Then corrupt politicians will turn this faux “agreement” into hurtful laws and policies. Stop COP. Run it out of Glasgow.

  4. hunterson7 says:

    By the way, the EU is not socialist, it is authoritarian.

  5. oldbrew says:

    Yes, the ‘point of no return’ is a joke. Humans can’t control or manage the climate inputs so the same applies to the outputs.

    Calling a few bits of machinery and equipment ‘green’ won’t change that.

  6. Coeur de Lion says:

    There’s been no mention around this year’s meeting that I’ve noticed about the Katowice climate conference which also involved over 20,000 delegates. And now this giant gabfest at Madrid.
    . Is there a hope that in the UK at least the Glasgow event will achieve some general publicity and that people will start to twig the essential futility of the process. It must be emphasised that this is COP TWENTY SIX .

  7. Adam Gallon says:

    Carry On Partying!

  8. cognog2 says:

    We may laugh and shrug our shoulders but there is a very sinister agenda behind all this being the long term objective of the UN and its acolytes to take control of the global levers of power.

  9. oldbrew says:

    COP Flop: World’s Major Economies Reject Stronger Climate Commitments
    Date: 14/12/19 Reuters

    MADRID (Reuters) – Major economies resisted calls for bolder climate commitments as a U.N. summit in Madrid limped toward a delayed conclusion on Saturday, dimming hopes that nations will act in time to stop rising temperatures devastating people and the natural world.

    [My comment: Reuters need to lie down in a dark room for a while.]

    “At a time when scientists are queuing up to warn about terrifying consequences if emissions keep rising, and school children are taking to the streets in their millions, what we have here in Madrid is a betrayal of people across the world,” said Mohamed Adow, director of Power Shift Africa, a climate and energy think-tank in Nairobi.
    – – –
    What’s he on? 😂

  10. oldbrew says:

    Oh dear…doomers struggling…

    Climate change: UN talks in Madrid hit rough waters
    Science and environment, BBC News
    3 hours ago

    UN climate talks appear to be in trouble as they head into extra time.

    Fault lines have re-appeared between different negotiating blocs, with one delegate describing a new draft text as “totally unacceptable”.

    Alden Meyer, from the Union of Concerned Scientists said the situation in Madrid was unprecedented since climate negotiations began in 1991.

    Negotiators are working towards a deal that would see countries commit to make new climate pledges by the end of 2020.

    Saturday saw the release of a new draft text from the meeting, designed to chart a way forward for the parties to the Paris agreement.

    The Paris pact came into being in 2015, with the intention of keeping the global average temperature to well below 2C. This was regarded at the time as the threshold for dangerous global warming, though scientists subsequently shifted the definition of the “safe” limit to a rise of 1.5C above pre-industrial levels.

    But Mr Meyer commented: “The latest version of the Paris Agreement decision text put forward by the Chilean presidency is totally unacceptable. It has no call for countries to enhance the ambition of their emissions reduction commitments.

    “If world leaders fail to increase ambition in the lead up to next year’s climate summit in Glasgow, they will make the task of meeting the Paris Agreement’s well below 2C temperature limitation goal – much less the 1.5 degrees Celsius goal – almost impossible.”
    – – –
    Their ‘ambition’ is sheer fantasy.

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