Net zero: The whole policy is based on a massive lie, says Professor

Posted: February 8, 2020 by oldbrew in Critique, Emissions, Energy, opinion
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Needless to say, this won’t please either the real or fake climate obsessives.
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In his recent presentation to the Global Warming Policy Foundation, Professor Gautam Kalghatgi answers the question: ‘Is it really the end of internal combustion engines and petroleum in transport?’

Gautam Kalghatgi is currently a Visiting Professor at Imperial College London (Mechanical Engineering) and also at Oxford University (Engineering Science).

He is a Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering, Society of Automotive Engineers, Institute of Mechanical Engineers and the Combustion Institute and an Honorary Fellow of the International Society for Energy, Environment and Sustainability.

He worked for 31 years at Shell Research followed by 8 years in Saudi Aramco before retiring in June 2018.

Source: The GWPF

Comments
  1. oldbrew says:

    Prof: “they should really be called EEVs – emissions elsewhere vehicles”.
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  2. oldbrew says:

    Electric cars: ‘Greater push needed to drive sales’

    BBC News NI
    5 hours ago

    Northern Ireland will not hit ambitious climate change targets unless it acts now to boost sales of electric vehicles, an industry body has warned.

    In 2019, only 427 Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) were sold here, up just 165 on 2015, BBC News NI can reveal.

    This is despite the fact that they will be the only type of new cars on sale in 15 years.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51282666
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    Who’s kidding who here, and what kind of ‘push’ might they have in mind? Sounds a bit sinister unless they just mean even bigger subsidies.

  3. Gamecock says:

    ‘This is despite the fact that they will be the only type of new cars on sale in 15 years.’

    Cos the people in 2035 are going to do what the people in 2020 tell them to do.

    NOT!!!!!!!!

  4. phil salmon says:

    A little OT but is this what one would expect clouds nucleated by high energy cosmic rays particle showers to look like?

    https://www.rt.com/news/480390-mysterious-cloud-formations-space-nasa/

  5. tallbloke supporter says:

    Also on the 4th February 2020, Boris said:

    “And even the aviation industry is now committing to be carbon neutral by 2050 well we are on the verge, I’m assured, within a couple of years of having viable electric passenger aircraft”

  6. oldbrew says:

    viable electric passenger aircraft — not with batteries then. Battery pack would massively exceed max take-off weight.

  7. Chris Morris says:

    I think you got it the wrong way round there oldbrew. It is the landing weight that is the killer. Most long distance planes long are half their takeoff weight. Even then, they do a lot of damage with the thump.Also the reason planes have to dump fuel to land if they have difficulties just after takeoff.
    A full long distance plane carries about 800MWh of energy. Imagine how big a battery pack would be needed to carry that – the best batteries are about 5kg/kWh without cooling and necessary ancillaries. Image the power stations needed and the cables to charge it in a 2 hour turn around.
    The proponents of electric planes don’t know what they are talking about.

  8. stpaulchuck says:

    Gee, politicians and their rent seeking “scientists” promising things they can’t deliver. I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell ya.

    I’m not particularly against electric vehicles in large metropolitan city centers. Although engines are getting cleaner and cleaner, they still pump unhealthy stuff into the air and when congregated like in city traffic there’s quite a lot. I would like to see a doable solution. Maybe some version of ‘park and ride’ but with slightly more costly than bus fare, cars. Today’s inner city car parks would be charging stations.

    To be truthful, I’d much rather see a more distributed infrastructure. 100 years ago crowding into cities made sense. With today’s video chat media you really do not HAVE to go there in person. When you do, it’s much nicer to go to what is today a third tier city to do business. London and Chicago are fun places to visit but a pain in the neck to get around in. Dover and Oklahoma City are much easier to get from A to B locally. It’s a minor issue to change planes or jump on a train to transfer from the ‘big airport’ to smaller cities or even take a leisurely drive to them. Anything that size has car rentals for local travel as well as buses and taxis.

  9. oldbrew says:

    The prof points out that in polluted areas the output of some Euro 6 diesels (exhaust) is cleaner than the input (air).

    He also says an Airbus A320 would need 19 times its max take-off weight in batteries – which would take 11 days to recharge (see screenshot in 1st comment above).

  10. oldbrew says:

    ‘Which’ magazine says:
    Carbon dioxide (CO2) is a different gas that is much more harmful to the environment than to people or animals. There’s been some confusion in the media between CO2 and the other emissions.

    The confusion is all theirs. CO2 is essential to anything that relies on photosynthesis, like plants and trees. How shockingly ignorant can they get?

    https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/new-and-used-cars/article/air-pollution-and-car-emissions/cars-that-produce-the-most-co

  11. Phoenix44 says:

    As it stands, if we want to be carbon neutral at any point in the next fifty years, we will have to radically change our societies and economies. This is the basic fact politicans are refusing to tell us. No long distance travel by car, no flying except for a limited number of specified reasons, a shift entirely to electricty-based heating and cooking, with planned brownouts and unplanned blackouts. Much of shipping will stop and we will therefore have to use much of our land for food, with much less efficient means of harvesting and plowing.

    This will lead to massive reductions in wealth, perhaps 5-8% reduction in GDP each year for 10-15 years, with consequent unemployment rates of 20% or more. It will be a Great Depression. Once we are done, we will struggle to grow economically again as we will have permanently hobbled ourselves to a low energy, low productivity way of life.

    Frankly, I doubt if any society could survive this without martial law.

  12. Gamecock says:

    ‘Once we are done’

    The catastrophic results will occur way before you are ‘done.’

    Human mobility will empty your islands quickly.

    BWTM: Britain will not remain a wasteland. Destroying your economy won’t occur in a vacuum. France, Germany, maybe even Denmark will invade. Perhaps Norway will avenge the 1940 British invasion.

    Net Zero People 2050 is an exercise in decadence. It is preposterous, yet politicians are so comfortable they can talk this absurdity.

    Vote ’em out, just like you did Brexit. Y’all need to shake reality into BoJo. He is too comfortable.

  13. oldbrew says:

    Police Wasted £1.5 Million on Electric Cars That Can’t Chase Criminals

    The official police reports admit that the battery-powered cars are incapable of fulfilling police duties such as chasing criminals or handling emergency response situations and often run out of power before a shift ends.

    The vehicles are used almost exclusively in non-emergency situations or to drive police chiefs to work.
    . . .
    In an annual survey, the police force in Kent found that the Nissan Leaf and the BMW i3 had inadequate range and take too long to recharge.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/12/26/uk-police-wasted-million-electric-cars-cant-catch-criminals/

  14. tallbloke supporter says:

    Phoenix44 says:
    February 9, 2020 at 9:32 am
    “As it stands, if we want to be carbon neutral at any point in the next fifty years, we will have to radically change our societies and economies. This is the basic fact politicans are refusing to tell us.”

    Oh but they are telling us, but only in places where nobody is watching or paying attention:

    “Transforming a society that is entirely based on carbon, to a society that no longer needs carbon as a basis for it’s functioning, is of a tectonic nature. This happens at a time when digitalisation is revolutionising all sorts of structures. If we do not understand that this is not just an economic change, this is not just a change in how we produce and live, this will affect every single institution upon which society is based and that helps society function as it does. And if we do not understand that we have a collective responsibility in preparing all these institutions, to handle this and to leave no one behind and to take everyone on board, then we understand how epic this challenge is. And then we also understand that disciplining ourselves along this path to 2030, 2040, 2050, through a climate law, is essential to make sure we deliver on this and to make sure we can correct whenever necessary.

    ….

    Extract from Frans Timmermans opening speech at last week’s conference on the proposed EU Climate Law

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/SPEECH_20_144

    The whole day’s event is detailed here:

    https://ec.europa.eu/info/events/high-level-public-conference-european-climate-law-2020-jan-28_en

    Sadly everything that Boris has said so far tells me that we will be in lockstep with this, like it or not.

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