Could Global Cooling Silently Become A Reality?

Posted: February 26, 2020 by oldbrew in climate, opinion, predictions, solar system dynamics, Temperature

Obsessing over trace gases and toying with computer models won’t provide the answer.

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By Ronald Stein ~

Trying to imply that cooling is right around the corner when we’re watching record-breaking warm ocean temperatures to me seems a big stretch, but current facts and the history around the five previous ice ages that came and melted before fossil fuels became recognizable words may be worthy of reviewing.

The real climate crisis may not be global warming, but global cooling, and it may have already started. These events may not be an anomaly, but a predecessor of things to come:

  • Planting was one month late due to cold Spring weather across the Great Plains of North America in both 2018 and 2019.

  • In 2019 Spring was wet and cold and ~40% of the huge USA corn crop was not planted.

  • Summer 2019 was cold, and snow came early in the Fall, and the crop was a failure across much of the Great Plains.

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  1. cognog2 says:

    I just do not know about this but am glad that I won’t be around when and if such cooling takes place; for it will cause a great deal of heartache and accusations across the board.

  2. oldbrew says:

    2020 / February / 26
    Exchange Of Arctic Research Crew Gets Delayed As Supply Ice Breaker Blocked By Unexpected “Dense Sea Ice”

    Thick ice caused breaker to run out of fuel.
    – – –
    Something else for climate alarmists not to notice.

  3. Gamecock says:

    ‘Trying to imply that cooling is right around the corner when we’re watching record-breaking warm ocean temperatures to me seems a big stretch’

    Citation needed.

    In fact, it’s ridiculous. We have insufficient data to make any claims about ocean temperatures: up, down, or sideways.

  4. stpaulchuck says:

    this whole “climate” kabuki is designed to wreck the Western economies in favor of China IMAO. I don’t think it started out that way. I think the scam artists were just rent seeking with their snake oil pitch.

    Month after month we see solid science papers published showing various natural mechanisms for warming and cooling such as cloud enhancement from cosmic rays which in turn are more or less as the sun’s output (solar wind) increases and decreases. Regulars here have seen the various papers by people like Nikolov and Zeller, et al. If we ARE contributing to the warming it is so small as to be masked by the noise in the data and well below the error bars yet the warmists claim to predict temperatures down to the hundredth of a degree. *snort* *spit* Yeah, as if.
    “The influence of mankind on climate is trivially true and numerically insignificant.” – Dr Richard Lindzen
    “The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.” – IPCC TAR WG1, Working Group I: The Scientific Basis

  5. JB says:

    Somebody finally getting around to looking at the temperature swings of past long-term cycles. Not the recent 400 year period, but 90-120,000 years. The fluctuations over the last 10,000 years have been the most stable of any measured record. Instead of a fairly stable ±½ºC, it was +2/-4ºC if Ice cores are reliable

    My son laughed at my feeble complaint of a recent summer peak of 33ºC. He was in Iraq at the time and boasted being outside with full camo dress at 60ºC. Not for me. I’m too Nordic.

  6. Coeur de Lion says:

    Medieval Warm Period- cathedral building, Greenland farming, prosperity. Little Ice Age – famine, plague, war.

  7. oldbrew says:

    Study: Paleoclimate forcing by the solar De Vries/Suess cycle (2015)

    Tentative prediction of the climate future

    The Earth’s climate shows a rather regular oscillation of ∼ 200 year period during the last millennia. However, frequency, phase, and strength of the oscillation are found to vary in different time series of temperatures and for different times (see Figs. 4–6, and 5 8). Nonetheless, the relative historic stability of the cycle suggests that the periodic
    nature of the climate will persist also for the foreseeable future. Disregarding other conceivable forcings e.g. anthropogenic influences, an approximate prediction of the climate for the next 100 years suggests itself.

    Figure 9 shows the Tsine representation from AD 1800 to AD 2100 derived from the ∆Tsine representation by a π/2 phase shift. It gives correctly the 1850–1900 temperature minimum and shows a temperature drop from present to ∼ AD 2080, the latter comparable with the minimum of 1870, as already predicted in the studies (Steinhilber and Beer, 2013; Liu et al., 2011) on the grounds of solar activity data alone. [bold added]

    Click to access cpd-11-279-2015.pdf

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    From the abstract:
    The sine wave character of the climate oscillations permits an approximate prediction of the near future climate.

    See also: German Scientists Show Climate Driven By Natural Cycles – Global Temperature To Drop To 1870 Levels By 2100!
    By P Gosselin on 3. December 2013
    (2 authors same as Paleo paper)
    – – –
    Why Phi? – Jupiter, Saturn and the de Vries cycle
    Posted: April 17, 2015

  8. Graeme No.3 says:

    This sounds similar to the prediction by Landscheidt who died in 2004. Try
    Landscheidt was an early proponent of the planetary modulation of the sun, although I (and probably others) have difficulty in seeing any influence by Pluto on the sun.
    Nevertheless he predicted that the 2007 el ñino would not be a major event, and it would be the start of cooling which would persist until 2080-85, followed by some warmer times.

    It was also noted that he was a viralent critic of the IPCC.

  9. Jim says:

    It would be hard, to find a planatary influence by Pluto. Or the other minors. But, the astronomy people, have just realized that other stars have planets, and they affect their host stars. Now it should only take five hundred years for them to notice an effect and to catalog it.

  10. docsiders says:

    The North Atlantic has cooled several degrees rather rapidly. Unprecedented.

  11. Gamecock says:


    ‘The cooling persists year-round and extends from the surface down to depths of 800 m.’

    Argo not mentioned in article. But there can be no other source of such data. Argo, with it’s extremely limited sampling capability, is a 21st century tool.

    Accepting that the NTZ article is correct, we have no data for the previous 4,499,999,980 years.

    Observing this for a few generations might tell us something. Less than 20 years’ data tells us absolutely nothing.

  12. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Still no sun spots. I’m buying new skis!

  13. oldbrew says:

    SC23 had 817 ‘spotless’ days.
    SC24 had 650 to 1st March 2020, still counting.

    Note: When the start of cycle 25 is retrospectively announced, a large number of spotless days that were sitting in cycle 24 will be transferred to cycle 25.