Can renewables fully sustain our current way of life? No chance

Posted: August 24, 2020 by oldbrew in Critique, Energy, ideology
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We’ve added the ‘no chance’ to the original headline, but this OilPrice.com article (extract below) confirms it right away. ‘Net zero’ climate obsessives, instead of trying to blame humans for changing the weather, need to stop running away from reality and face some inconvenient facts.
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“The reason renewables can’t power modern civilization is because they were never meant to. One interesting question is why anybody ever thought they could.”

Michael Shellenberger, Time magazine “Hero of the Environment,” wrote this commentary in an article in Forbes.

According to Shellenberger, president at Environmental Progress and an expert reviewer for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), renewables are simply incapable of sustaining our current way of life.

Why? Because people just are not willing to give up all the perks of modern life in order to return to some kind of a romantic pre-industrial era—the only kind of era that renewables could hope to sustain.

Climate change and the pivot toward energy transition are real. But the idea of having the world function as we know it powered solely by renewable energy is unrealistic today.

It will likely still be unrealistic three decades from now.

Continued here.

Comments
  1. JB says:

    The novelty of the old Jacobs wind generator came and went a century ago. Everybody found back then they were a bigger headache than a benefit in rural settings. Those things were all taken down decades ago and you can’t see a single one anywhere in the Midwest.

    With a 15mph average wind speed that has little energy in it, and micro wind bursts/tornadoes that tore them to pieces farmers went to something more reliable and low maintenance.

  2. Ian W says:

    The test of the renewables is can they provide sufficient reliable baseload power to recreate themselves. This requires smelting of large quantities of iron/steel and other more exotic metals a power down in the middle of these processes can result in the destruction of the furnaces being used. The diffuse power requires that the renewables are spread out and take up a lot of space but all the elements have to be linked by high quality transmission lines on metal pylons set in concrete bases.

    The renewables cannot provide this level of reliable baseload power. So once the entire country is running on renewables, after their useful life, the country has to beg another country to provide new wind generators, miles of transmission lines, prefabricated pylons and concrete to set them in.
    Which country could that possibly be?
    Which country has been building new fossil fuel baseload generation capacity at the rate of one generation station every 10 days or so?
    Oh that’s right China, the country that Maurice Strong retired to, the country that wants to be THE world superpower.

    Without reliable baseload power heavy industry is dead, even manufacturing cannot continue without reliable power.
    But that is the aim of Net Zero, ‘Green New Deal’, ‘The Great Reset’ – de-industrialization of ‘the West’.
    Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov aka Lenin said: ““The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.” Even he didn’t think that the Capitalists would purchase the rope from him. But that is what is happening thanks to innumerate ‘precautionary principle’ ‘do you want fries with that’ politicians.

  3. cognog2 says:

    Put simply the Thermodynamic Laws prevent it.

  4. oldbrew says:

    Californian leaders are shocked to find people still want air con to work after the sun has gone down 🙄

    Maybe these will make a comeback…

    Before long they may want charge up about a million Tesla EVs after dark. How dare they?

  5. stpaulchuck says:

    well duh, the goal is to destroy “our current way of life” in order to save Mother Gaia

    also, the more hungry and in danger the general population is the more the bait and switch pols will promise to save us if we only vote for them

  6. Gamecock says:

    ‘We’ve added the ‘no chance’ to the original headline’

    Not needed. Betteridge’s Law is obvious.

  7. gbaikie says:

    Wind energy should work on Venus.
    And solar energy is working in Earth orbit.
    “There are an estimated 2,200 satellites orbiting the Earth at present, but telecommunications companies are launching dozens of new satellites regularly… London-based OneWeb planned to launch nearly 400 this year and ultimately have 650 in place. Elon Musk’s SpaceX has put 240 into orbit since last spring and could have 1,000 more launched by the end of the year. The company hopes to deploy as many as 42,000 satellites for its Starlink internet system.”
    https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2020/05/20/space-satellites-crowded-junk-exploration-impact/stories/202002190057
    The 1000 Starlink have about 6 kw each, 1000 being total of 6 MW. And when there are 42,000
    of them, they will total 252 MW.

  8. oldbrew says:

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