EPA Warns California: Ban On Gas-Powered Cars Possibly Illegal

Posted: September 30, 2020 by oldbrew in government, ideology, Legal, Travel
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Los Angeles, CA


A spot of ‘see you in court’ sabre-rattling seems to be going on here. At some point over-zealous climate ideology will get exposed, as power cuts get ever more unavoidable. California’s rulers want to lead the charge into that elephant trap, although they would put it differently.

H/T Climate Change Dispatch.
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Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Andrew Wheeler on Monday warned in a letter sent to California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) that his executive order banning gas-powered vehicles may be unlawful, Reuters reports.

Wheeler wrote that Newsom’s plan “raises serious questions regarding its legality and practicality” and argued that it may cause further issues problems plaguing the state’s electrical grid.

“California’s record of rolling blackouts – unprecedented in size and scope – coupled with recent requests to neighboring states for power begs the question of how you expect to run an electric car fleet that will come with significant increases in electricity demand when you can’t even keep the lights on today,” the Trump official stated.

Newsom has yet to reply to the EPA.

As of Monday afternoon, approximately 87,500 Pacific Gas and Electric Company customers in California were without power in an effort to avoid starting additional wildfires, according to the Los Angeles Times.

Last week, Newsom announced that the state will ban sales of gas-powered vehicles in 2035, calling the order an “audacious” goal that was necessary for the state to operate on 100 percent renewable energy by 2045.

Continued here.

Comments
  1. Gamecock says:

    ‘Wheeler wrote that Newsom’s plan “raises serious questions regarding its legality and practicality” and argued that it may cause further issues problems plaguing the state’s electrical grid.’

    So ?!?!

    States are free to do anything they want, no matter how stupid. California’s rolling blackouts are California’s problem. None of Wheeler’s business. Being stupid doesn’t authorize the EPA to do anything.

  2. California needs people in office that aren’t living in a fantasy

  3. oldbrew says:

    ‘Wheeler also said the order likely wouldn’t be able to be implemented by the California Air Resources Board without approval from the EPA, noting that the Trump administration in 2019 took away California’s power to set its own vehicle tailpipe emissions standards.’

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/epa-chief-mocks-californias-2035-ban-on-gas-powered-cars-you-cant-even-keep-the-lights-on-today-2020-09-28

  4. stpaulchuck says:

    first off, a governor like Noisome does NOT have the power to do that. Only the legislature can make laws and banning a legal product requires a law, not some fiat edict by an executive.

  5. oldbrew says:

    California’s Planned Ban on Gas-Powered Auto Sales Is Great for Elon Musk, but It Won’t Help the Environment
    Gov. Gavin Newsom’s order could actually be worse for the environment.
    Friday, September 25, 2020

    ‘While conventional wisdom says electric vehicles are more environmentally friendly and an effective tool to fight climate change, research suggests electric vehicles may have environmental costs that actually exceed those of internal combustion engines when the full cycle of production is included.’

    https://fee.org/articles/california-s-planned-ban-on-gas-powered-auto-sales-is-great-for-elon-musk-but-it-won-t-help-the-environment/
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    Lots of mining needed for EV batteries.

  6. Phoenix44 says:

    I suspect California will find itself short of medium and low cost labour soon enough. Only the well-off can afford new cars, let alone be, expensive cars like EVs. People won’t just happily switch to public transport for every journey so instead they will switch state. If I was running neighbouring states I would be courting not just California’s businesses but their workforces too.

  7. Phoenix44 says:

    Gamecock, that is simply wrong, states cannot do anything they like. Some matters are federal, and some states’ powers are limited. A state cannot do anything that does not abide by the constitution either. A 5 minute look at the history of segregation in the South shows this.

  8. oldbrew says:

    Presumably CA residents could still acquire cars from outside CA after the planned cut-off date?

  9. pochas94 says:

    No no, leave ’em alone. We need someone to show us how not to do it.

  10. Gamecock says:

    “Some matters are federal, and some states’ powers are limited. A state cannot do anything that does not abide by the constitution either.”

    Stay on topic, Phoenix44. It is California banning petrol cars. Do you believe banning petrol cars is unconstitutional?

    10th Amendment:

    ‘The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people’

  11. oldbrew says:

    Gamecock – see…
    oldbrew says: September 30, 2020 at 5:07 pm

  12. oldbrew says:

    California’s solar energy gains go up in wildfire smoke
    Pollution from wildfires blocked sunlight and coated solar panels
    Oct 1, 2020

    In the first two weeks of September, soot and smoke caused solar-powered electricity generation to fall 30 percent compared to the July average, according to the California Independent System Operator (CAISO), which oversees nearly all utility-scale solar energy in California. It was a 13.4 percent decrease from the same period last year, even though solar capacity in the state has grown about 5 percent since September 2019.

    California depends on solar installations for nearly 20 percent of its electricity generation, and has more solar capacity than the next five US states trailing it combined.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/1/21496088/california-solar-energy-loss-wildfire-smoke-pollution

  13. Gamecock says:

    ‘took away California’s power to set its own vehicle tailpipe emissions standards.’

    Banning petrol cars has double ought zero to do with setting tailpipe emission standards.

  14. oldbrew says:

    Isn’t CA in effect, if not explicitly, advocating an emission standard of zero? So the proposed standard is: you can’t have a tailpipe, at least not one that emits CO2.

    One for the lawyers probably.

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