Command & Control: Subsidised Wind Power Central to Britain’s Great Socialist Reset

Posted: January 16, 2021 by oldbrew in Accountability, climate, Critique, government, ideology, Subsidies
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As COVID drains the national exchequer, plans to hose a few trillion pounds at the phantom problem of innocuous carbon dioxide molecules go almost unnoticed.


As Margaret Thatcher put it: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

That adage, however, doesn’t appear to trouble Britain’s current PM, Boris Johnson, whose plan to squander a further £50,000,000,000 on subsidies and over-the-market contracts for intermittent offshore wind power beggars belief.

But that colossal crony-capitalist boondoggle, is a mere snip by comparison with the £3 trillion that he’s planning to squander on an effort to completely remove carbon dioxide gas from the British atmosphere – well, at least the kind generated by all human activity, that is.

Andrew Montford takes a look at the numbers in order to get a grip on the cost of Boris Johnson’s ‘net zero’ CO2 plan for Britain.

Honesty is needed on the huge costs of attempting “net-zero”
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Andrew Montford
5 December 2020

Politicians can be divided into those who like to spend big…

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  1. oldbrew says:

    The UK power grid is already on the ropes, thanks to unrestrained renewables promotion at the expense of everything else.

  2. Coeur de Lion says:

    The U.K. produces just over one per cent of global CO2. Therefore nothing we do makes any difference. And no- one is listening. CO2 will continue to climb at c. 2 ppm a year. There will be no influence on the weather.

  3. Stuart Brown says:

    I was looking at the all time averages on earlier. Average demand in the year to 1/1/20 was 29.2GW; average demand in the year to 1/1/21 was 35.5GW. Before 2020 demand was dropping steadily year by year and then there was a massive spike taking us back to 2013!

    What’s that all about? Working from home to avoid WuFlu? Global cooling? Uptake of EVs and heat pumps? Interesting to note too that renewables was the only sector producing less power over the last year than the previous year.

    I’m relying on Kate and haven’t checked those figures, but the graph is dramatic. Just checking – the highest Triad figure for last winter was 45.05GW, and 46.9GW has been exceeded this year already. If the National Grid is stressed, it may not be just due to renewables – something else is going on…

  4. Stuart Brown says:

    …the highest Triad figure for last winter was 44.9GW, not over 45GW.

  5. saighdear says:

    from our Poll results on wind farms in northern Highlands ‘don’t reflect strength of feeling’ – campaigner ” Brenda Herrick says that the £73 million paid out to wind farm operators in Caithness and Sutherland since the system of constraints payments began in 2010 shows that there is no need for further turbines in the area.” kinda sums up the entire Scam of it.

  6. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Princess Nut Nut appears insane. BOJO doesn’t have a spine.

  7. oldbrew says:

    They’re going to need a lot of expensive batteries just to stop the grid crashing.

    As the demand for renewable energy continues to increase, batteries will play an increasingly important role as a storage technology to facilitate the reliable and flexible generation of electricity. Renewable sources are naturally hampered by intermittency, meaning the need for storage capability is vital – the National Grid estimate 30GW of installed capacity is required by 2050.

    Lead batteries, a reliable and safe energy storage technology, are already playing their part across the UK and Europe for frequency regulation and grid stabilising energy storage purposes as shown in CBI’s interactive map. [bold added]
    – – –
    When they say ‘energy storage’, that really means a short period in which to work out how to generate electricity when renewables aren’t doing it. Diesel generators perhaps? Like ‘demand management’ (selective power cuts) – hardly an ideal solution.

  8. Phoenix44 says:

    30 million households prevented from spending £500 each year on a holiday abroad is a cost of £15 billion a year.

    £5/week per household less meat they want is £7.8 billion.

    £100/year fewer trips by car is £3 billion.

    And so on. We will be made tens of billions poorer each and every year.

  9. oldbrew says:

    The ‘build-back-better’ clones plan to meet in June…

    Cornwall seaside resort to host G7 summit of world leaders
    Saturday 16 January 2021 23:11, UK

    Boris Johnson will host this year’s G7 summit in the tiny seaside resort of Carbis Bay in Cornwall, where he will urge world leaders to unite in “building back better” from the pandemic.
    . . .
    He will seek to promote a green recovery from the COVID-19 crisis.
    – – –
    Subsidising ‘green’ jobs at everyone else’s expense passes for economic policy nowadays.

  10. Gamecock says:

    ‘As the demand for renewable energy continues to increase’

    Demand? Wut? People want electricity. Few care where it comes from. (And when it’s gone, no one will care. “Just get it back on!”) Might be a cousin of the increased demand (sic) for plug-in electric cars.

    ‘batteries will play an increasingly important role as a storage technology to facilitate the reliable and flexible generation of electricity.’

    ‘Facilitate.’ Uh huh. You can’t make renewables ‘reliable’ or ‘flexible.’

    ‘Renewable sources are naturally hampered by intermittency, meaning the need for storage capability is vital’

    There are two planes here. Storage for control, and storage for ride through.

    ‘the National Grid estimate 30GW of installed capacity is required by 2050.’

    Won’t begin to cover ride through. May as well not exist.

    Storage for control probably a good idea if you are going to insist on intermittent production, such that the power to the grid interface is consistent and predictable. Though I don’t know if it is financially justifiable. Theoretically, intermittent sources should produce to batteries (or other storage), and power to the grid come from the batteries. Making its potential measurable and predictable.

  11. oldbrew says:

    8 January 2021: Europe just skirted blackout disaster
    Date: 17/01/21 Henrik Paulitz, Kalte Sonne

    On 8 January 2021, the European electricity grid only just missed a large-scale collapse. Around 13:04 p.m. there was a sharp drop in frequency that could have paralysed Europe.
    – – –
    Welcome to your renewable energy future. It will get much worse.

  12. Gamecock says:

    “It will get much worse.”

    And the collapse will be a hockey stick. When you reach the point that backup producers can’t make money on their capital anymore, they will withdraw from the market. Pack up their turbines and move elsewhere.

    Here’s a fun exercise: look at your major electrical suppliers. Are they creating relationships with other countries? Betcha they are already figuring out where they are going to go.

    Centrica is multinational. E.on is German. RWE has German links. Though Scottish Power and SSE will go down with the ship.

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  14. Gamecock says:

    Well, I’ll be . . .

    I had to check their post date to see if my above post was before or after them. They say pretty much the same thing, except Dr Wojick calls it “grid stabilization.” The specific hazard being that the high penetration of renewables makes maintaining 60 cycles difficult on the grid. And his cost numbers say large scale battery implementation is prohibitive, anyway.

  15. oldbrew says:

    Green ‘solutions’ never stand up to much scrutiny. California and Germany have already forced gas power plants that wanted to close, to stay open. Signs of desperation?

    Scottish Power is Spanish-owned these days.