EU plotting ‘ban’ on internal combustion engine as of 2025: industry

Posted: March 4, 2021 by oldbrew in Emissions, government, Travel
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German Autobahn


EU politicians seem determined to hobble their car industry regardless of economic consequences, to save a few molecules of a harmless trace gas that’s essential to plant and tree growth.
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The European Commission’s proposed Euro 7 emission rules on cars, vans, trucks and buses would amount to “a ban through the back door” of internal combustion engines as of 2025, if implemented in their current form, industry has said, calling the proposal premature and “completely out of the question”. Euractiv reporting.

The ‘Euro 7‘ rules aim to ensure vehicles are clean over their entire lifetime, helping Europe to meet its European Green Deal emissions targets.

The exact details of the measure are still under discussion, but they are already creating jitters at VDMA, a German trade association representing mechanical engineering companies.

“The planned obligation that new vehicles in Europe must be practically emission-free from 2025 onwards would be an ecological, economic and technological aberration,” VDMA said in a statement.

“The proposals for the Euro 7 regulation discussed so far jeopardise value chains far beyond the automotive industry by leading to a de facto ban on cars and trucks powered solely by internal combustion engines. Europe cannot afford that,” the statement said.

VDMA argues that the introduction of e-fuels means the internal combustion engine will continue to play a role in the shift to green transport.

E-fuels, such as liquid hydrogen, can be created from electricity provided by renewable sources, offering a green alternative to fossil fuels. However, these synthetic fuels currently have a much higher cost of production and require large amounts of renewable energy to be carbon neutral.

Frans Timmermans, the EU’s climate policy chief, said decisions will be made in dialogue with the car industry, but stressed that his intention was not to avoid “difficult topics and difficult decisions”.

“You know that the car industry starts by saying it’s impossible and then, in the end, complies,” he told a press briefing last November. “But I’m not taking that as a template for my negotiations now because we have to listen to [the industry], we have to listen to their arguments,” he said.

Timmermans acknowledged the critical role of car manufacturing for the European economy but said the industry needs to now move towards electric vehicles and the use of hydrogen for heavier transport.

“I know that there is a lot of nervousness. We will have this dialogue with the industry, but we cannot wait until 2029 to have a further reduction of our emissions,” he added.

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Comments
  1. It doesn't add up... says:

    Wir halten halten halten auf der Autobahn

  2. JB says:

    Yeah, let’s see how much giddyap burning hydrogen in the common ICE produces! Shipping arrival just went into the next century.

    “You know that the car industry starts by saying it’s impossible and then, in the end, complies,”

    Idiot.

  3. It doesn't add up... says:

    One thought about all this eagerness to convert manufacturers to EVs. It will reduce transport in countries with inadequate electricity provision back to before their railways were built (if they even have those).

  4. ivan says:

    When is someone going to ask the idiots the vital question – how far can a team of horses pull a cart of goods in a day and where is all the food for said horses going to come from since the greenery will be dying off because of lack of CO2 plant food?

    What we are seeing is the result of ‘government by feelings’ without any real scientific input – how to regress to the dark ages in one easy lesson.

    Those that won’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it!

  5. Coeur de Lion says:

    I have written to The Times and the Spectator suggesting that now the COVID-19 crisis is diminishing, the climate crisis deserves similar treatment with the Climate Change Committee chairing say a weekly meeting to discuss ‘the science’ and costs and benefits. The public deserves nothing less. Now if you ‘all do the same it might work. First question “what percentage of global CO2 does U.K. emit?”

  6. Paul Vaughan says:

    The Simplest Math, Homer….

    To daze mull IT tory intel report states:

    “The rich want — and feel they need — an easier commute.”
    “80% less traffic will make them feel a LOT more comfortable.”

    Their patience has run out. If they have to cancel 80% of the public (make them homeless, destitute, and thus obviously too insane to be heard on the net – or anywhere else) they’ve simplified.

  7. Gamecock says:

    Start planning your move to South Carolina now, while the best sites are still available.

    https://www.sccommerce.com/buildings-sites

  8. tomo says:

    The arithmetic of bribery or just having the ringleaders bumped off is going to kick in eventually

  9. cognog2 says:

    Why doesn’t the car industry get its act together and preempt this EU decision by informing all that orders placed for vehicles by politicians, government officials and public sector activity must be for EV vehicles only and refuse to supply ICE alternatives. There would still be left the market for private sector activities and for individuals and this would remove pressure on the grid capacity to supply the extra energy required.
    It might make the politicians think a little deeper during their deliberations.

    The short term losses of this would considerably less than the long term consequences of doing nothing.

  10. pochas94 says:

    Why? Because the Green Golem is upon us 👹

  11. E.M.Smith says:

    Oh Goody! Let the EU go first and show us how it is done!

    2025, so all of 4 years to completely change the vehicle industry, make a hydrogen fueling network, dramatically increase wind and solar (about 10 to 20 times present, at least), install millions of charging station (and transformers and wires and towers and…)

    Oh boy is this going to be fun to watch!

    Hydrogen is a lousy motor fuel. It knocks and detonates. Leaks out THROUGH materials, embrittals metals, and loves burning with an invisible flame. Car crashes are going to be spectacular. You would be hard pressed to pick a worse fuel. It is nice in fuel cells, but tankage is a killer and costs will be spectacular given Germany’s highest in the EU electricity costs.

    Oh, and the notion it can soak up excess supply so more wind and solar installs won’t destabilize the grid is also daft. A hydrogen plant that only runs a few hours a day and very little in winter is a horrible fixed cost albatross jacking up prices. Then you will need to store about 3 months of hydrogen for the whole fleet. Most of your excess supply will be in spring to summer. Winter will be an energy hole. Going to cover Europe in hydrogen storage tanks? Ditto batteries for eCar charging in winter…

    Well, at least we will finally get rid of those aggressive pesky BMW drivers. The German auto industry is toast if they do this. Think you will sell those cars in Africa or Asia? Heck, even Texas?

    FWIW, after about 35 years as a Mercedes owner, my last car purchase was a Subaru. I’m done buying German. Prices way to high already, and repair costs are crazy. For my Mercedes 4Matic, front axel drive shafts are about $1000 for the part. Front axel shaft for the Subaru? $128 installed. And the kicker is that I enjoy driving the Subaru more… Now that is before this coming round of insane infrastucture and fuel change costs hits their production in Germany.

    Oh Well. Not my problem. Only impact on me will be higher salty snack budget and more time laughing at the show.

  12. Gamecock says:

    Putin gathering his tanks. A Europe without petrol vehicles will be naked to invasion.

  13. stpaulchuck says:

    the kakistocracy formerly known as the scientific community is the direct result of government funding of SPECIFIC science, a quango of rent seekers and power mad fools.

  14. Those hydrogen storage tanks are ideal military targets!

  15. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Who put the lunatics in charge?

  16. Coeur de Lion says:

    Love my AdBlu Citroen diesel. So clean I only pay £20 p a road tax. And it’s four years old. And per mile it’s cheaper to fuel than an EV!! And the Nissan Leaf depreciates at £5000 a year!

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