The Downside Of Electric Vehicles

Posted: July 20, 2021 by oldbrew in net zero, opinion, Travel
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Accept EVs, accept anything – forever?

PA Pundits - International

By Duggan Flanakin ~

If you listen to the “woke” futurists, or even to the majority of auto companies pledging to stop manufacturing gasoline and diesel vehicles, it might be time to sell your auto stocks. Do you really think the U.S. is about to build 280 million electric vehicles to replace the 270 million internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles that many states (and many countries, not to mention auto manufacturers) want to ban (from the highway not just from new sales) by 2030, 2040, or maybe 2049?

Forget if you will all the arguments about the massive amount of earth mining using slave labor those 270 million EVs will generate to acquire the cobalt, nickel, lithium, and other metals without which EVs cannot be built, much less operate. Forget the huge costs of expanding the electric grid to account for all of the electricity needed to move those vehicles…

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  1. stpaulchuck says:

    “Forget if you will all the arguments about the massive amount of earth mining using slave labor those 270 million EVs will generate to acquire the cobalt, nickel, lithium, and other metals without which EVs cannot be built, much less operate.”

    you neglected to mention the million new windmills that are in direct competition for those rare earths and other materials.

    Until we get room temperature super conductors the grid would have to consume nearly all copper ever mined and litter the landscape above and below ground with millions of miles of transmission lines. What a pleasant thought that is supposed to be. *spit*

  2. oldbrew says:

    Electric cars: lack of charging points and competition fuel concerns ahead of petrol and diesel car ban

    Lack of competition, on-street charging and under-investment in rural areas all key issues highlighted by competition watchdog
    . . .
    Sue Davies, Which?’s head of consumer protection policy, said: ‘The UK’s electric car charging network is confusing, disjointed and in dire need of reform to make it a viable option for all, especially those who do not have access to a private charger. So it’s promising to see the CMA calling for a national strategy to improve the sector and investigating competition concerns.’ [bold added]

    Read more: https://www.which.co.uk/news/2021/07/electric-cars-lack-of-charging-points-and-competition-fuel-concerns-ahead-of-petrol-car-ban/ – Which?
    – – –
    Calling for something and getting it could be miles apart in this case.

  3. oldbrew says:

    Electric car charging ‘postcode lottery’ under fire
    Competition regulator warns UK must vastly expand charging infrastructure before ban on petrol and diesel car sales
    23 July 2021

    On Thursday Shell announced a plan to install up to 800 charging points at 100 Waitrose stores by 2025.

    Each site will have six 22kW and two 50kW rapid charging points so that drivers can charge while they shop, rather than making a special stop.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/07/23/watchdog-decries-postcode-lottery-electric-car-charge-points/
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    Targetting the relatively well-heeled shopper then. Just like EVs themselves 🙄

  4. Stuart Brown says:

    ‘Professor Wu Feng at Beijing Institute of Technology told Chinese media, “A 20-gram cell phone battery can pollute three standard swimming pools of water, and if abandoned on the land, it can pollute 1 square kilometer of land for about 50 years.”

    Compared to cell phone batteries, the pollution caused by the batteries of large new energy vehicles is more serious.’
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/with-china-producing-half-the-worlds-new-energy-vehicles-retired-batteries-may-bring-explosive-pollution_3897010.html

  5. Gamecock says:

    ‘Each site will have six 22kW and two 50kW rapid charging points so that drivers can charge while they shop, rather than making a special stop.’

    Correction: the FIRST eight drivers can charge while they shop.

    Will you leave home not knowing if a charger is available?

    Won’t matter. Waitrose exists because of a mobile population. Banning petrol vehicle will end that. Thus ends Waitrose.

    The problem is a matter of scale. Each Waitrose will need a charging station at EVERY PARKING SPOT. 8 spots for hundreds of cars is nothing.

    Is Shell doing this because they think they can make money on it, or are they genuflecting?

    Answer: B.

  6. oldbrew says:

    Shell at Waitrose is only catering for EV owners who can’t charge at home, whether on a journey or whatever. But Shell at Aldi is probably not imminent.

  7. Stuart Brown says:

    “But Shell at Aldi is probably not imminent.”
    https://newmotion.com/en-gb/knowledge-centre/pressroom/aldi-pr

  8. oldbrew says:

    Stuart – yes, I guess they’re all at it now, playing the virtue-signalling game 🙄.

    Most of the (so far) few EV owners will still prefer to charge at home whenever possible though, for obvious reasons.

  9. oldbrew says:

    Dundee Museum of Transport electric car wowing visitors at COP26
    July 25, 2021

    On loan from the Dundee Museum of Transport, it has a top speed of just 35mph and looks a lot like Postman Pat’s van.

    It has a battery distance of 20 miles and takes eight hours to charge, so just 12 of them were ever made.

    Museum manager Alexander Goodger was amazed to be one of just eight of the 250 applicants worldwide to be selected to exhibit at the climate conference.
    . . .
    Officially called the Scottish Aviation Scamp, they were built in the mid-60s by Scottish Aviation at Prestwick.

    https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/dundee-museum-of-transport-electric-car-wowing-visitors-at-cop26/


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    What will be in the EV museum in another 50 years’ time?

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