Internet of nothings – how my EV can’t charge without my Wi-Fi! 

Posted: January 18, 2022 by oldbrew in Batteries, Critique, Energy, net zero, Travel

Is more of this what the future has in store, as governments enforce their plans to eradicate fuel-burning private cars from public roads in pursuit of nebulous ‘net zero’ goals? As well as wi-fi issues, if there’s a power cut affecting your home for example, an EV in need of a battery charge is rendered useless for the duration.
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How EVs and chargers say no when the internet freezes — reporting by Energy Live News.

So everyone hails the future of interconnected devices and I am all for that. Or so I thought!

But this week I have been unable to charge my EV, why?

Because although I have a charging point, electricity, a cable and of course a car…. I have no internet, it’s gone down and so without my Wi-Fi, I cannot use the charger as it works via an app to charge my car.

No internet. No app. No charging!

My EV is on lease from Octopus vehicles and works with an EO charger. It works via an app which has to talk to my Wi-Fi – as it charges at night (cheaper for me, better for grid load), yet as I discovered without Wi-Fi, the charger can’t just be turned on an off. It only charges at the set times saved in the app.

So even though I was very low on charge when I got home I couldn’t charge my car there and then. What if I had needed the car in an emergency?

It seems ridiculous to have no fail safe with this interconnected system, surely my car should be able to be charged without the dependence of my broadband?

It’s a hilarious state of affairs. But also very concerning.

Full report here.

  1. […] Internet of nothings – how my EV can’t charge without my Wi-Fi!  […]

  2. rogercaiazza says:

    Among the plans to implement New York’s version of net zero suicide is that future home appliances (all electric of course) will have to be “grid enabled”. I had not considered this problem with that plan.

  3. oldbrew says:

    EVs and severe weather events don’t look like a good match.

  4. ivan says:

    I think the simple answer would be to get a non internet connected charger or better yet, get a car with a diesel engine.

  5. Paul Vaughan says:

    back in the 80s we operated these joyfully with no internet

    could tell you stories for hours
    not sure why these weren’t the basic model for individual city driving
    tank of gas was like $2.50 — and good for a very long 4-season drive

  6. Gamecock says:

    ‘But this week I have been unable to charge my EV, why?

    ‘It seems ridiculous to have no fail safe with this interconnected system’

    I think this is a millennial thing, where they just expect everything to work out.

    I think of the punch line from the old parable:

    “You knew I was a snake when you picked me up.”

  7. Graeme No.3 says:

    Not quite the old Aussie bushy’s warning about the Pom who picked up what he thought was a stick to hit what he thought was a snake.

  8. Chaswarnertoo says:


  9. Coeur de Lion says:

    Plug in to your garage workbench outlet.

  10. Phoenix44 says:

    As with just about everybody, he misuses “fail safe”.

    And has he only just worked out that being unable to charge an EV for whatever reason makes it impossible to use in an emergency? You can’t just use the red plastic container to fill them up.

  11. Bloke down the pub says:

    Is this just Tesla’s way of encouraging you to purchase Elon’s Starlink internet connectivity?

  12. Jim says:

    Starlink is not the solution. One hard solar blast, and would the devices restart? And, that hard a blast, would the lines be standing or the devices to power the net be repairable?

  13. oldbrew says:

    Overnight charging means no solar input to the grid. So where are millions of electric cars going to get electricity from when it’s not windy that night?
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    Coeur de Lion says: ‘Plug in to your garage workbench outlet.’

    Only good for up to about 8 miles range per hour. Some EVs require a fitted car charger, e.g. Tesla, and if/when the UK government brings in its new EV rules (June this year?) they all will.

    Using a 3-pin plug to charge at home is easy, but very slow

  14. Steve Richards says:

    Unfortunately in a couple of months time, all newly installed chargers in the UK will require to contain conditional timing so they can be forced only to charge at off peak times…

  15. oldbrew says:

    Wind and solar can be way off their peaks at any time.

  16. Coeur de Lion says:

    Bubblewrap a couple of AdBlu diesel Citroen Picassos for your grandchildren.

  17. boudicaus says:

    Reblogged this on and commented:
    H/T gds44

  18. oldbrew says:

    It gets worse…

    Alexa down: Amazon outage leaves users unable to access smart speakers and smart devices

    Virtual assistant built into millions of devices the UK, including home hubs used to control heating and lighting around homes
    21 January 2022

    The tech giant said the fault was rapidly fixed but declined to explain what caused the mysterious blackout.

    The incident highlighted the vulnerability of so-called “smart homes” that increasingly rely on the internet to run everyday devices and household functions.
    . . .
    Many users also said that they had woken up late or overslept as Alexa is often used as an alarm clock.

    Amazon said the fault behind the outage was resolved by mid-morning on Friday.

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