Energy crisis: Fears energy companies profit when renewable power slumps – adding to burden on bill payers

Posted: February 5, 2022 by oldbrew in climate, Energy, net zero
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Energy costs on the rise


Entirely foreseeable. When renewables are under-performing, the National Grid is under pressure to keep the electricity supply system afloat, giving fringe providers an obvious earning opportunity as there are only a limited number of them able to offer such a service, and time is short. As long as renewables are given priority and are increasing their share of the market, everything else has to cover its fixed costs with a shrinking share, forcing prices up. It’s an inevitable result of the UK government’s climate-obsessed policies on power generation.
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The power industry is concerned some companies could be making massive profits on the occasional days when renewable electricity generation slumps, says Sky News.

Generators which step up to fill those gaps are charging record prices to “balance” the supply of electricity as our power grid rapidly shifts towards net-zero.

The costs are paid by the industry, but are ultimately passed on to bill payers.

They make up only a few percent of the total cost of an electricity bill – but the extra burden is coming at a time when energy prices are already soaring.

The latest data, analysed for Sky News, shows consumers will end up paying a record £2.6bn on their bills due to the costs of balancing the electricity grid in 2021.

And it looks set to continue this year, with just one day last week costing more than £40m. Compare that to typical daily “grid balancing” costs of around £2m.

The high prices are in part due to the record high wholesale cost of gas, but there’s evidence that some electricity generators are charging much higher prices to increase generation on days when flows of electricity from wind and solar plants fall.

“The pricing seems very high compared to normal,” Darren Jones MP, chair of the business, energy and industrial strategy committee, told Sky News.

“What we need to understand is how much of that is related to the price of gas given the international gas crisis, and how much of that is due to potential bad behaviour of generators who are quite frankly taking the mick in order to make excessive profits.”

Ensuring a steady supply of electricity means engineers at National Grid ESO, which manages the grid, have to constantly work with generators to manage supply.

On days, or hours, when there is low wind, National Grid takes bids from suppliers to fill the gap through something called the “balancing market”.

But in recent months, balancing market costs have been rising exponentially.

Full article here.

Comments
  1. Curious George says:

    What a surprise 🙂

  2. […] Energy crisis: Fears energy companies profit when renewable power slumps – adding to burden on… […]

  3. oldbrew says:

    These kind of ‘fears’ didn’t hit the headlines until renewables were pushed to the fore.

  4. avro607 says:

    Sorry to butt into this thread Rog.,I have a question to ask.I am not a scientist and I am puzzled by the reference to “path length” when discussing CO2..What does it mean;please can you enlighten me.
    I happened upon a discussion in your archives concerning Nasif Nahle,Hottel and others,but I was not clear about the relevance of the numbers quoted.
    Thanks Rog.

  5. They designed the systems to make money for their investors, including the lawmakers and regulators. In the name of providing cheaper energy in the best conditions, which only works due the huge subsidies and tax credits, and keeping power on in the worst of conditions, they design the systems to have shortages in the worst of conditions, that is where they enjoy the most ill gotten gains. The shortages are for sure, they have closed the reliable power generation that used to work just fine in difficult times.

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    On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:27 AM Tallbloke’s Talkshop wrote:

    > oldbrew posted: ” Entirely foreseeable. When renewables are > under-performing, the National Grid is under pressure to keep the > electricity supply system afloat, giving fringe providers an obvious > earning opportunity as there are only a limited number of them able to > offer” >

  6. Gamecock says:

    ‘The power industry is concerned some companies could be making massive profits on the occasional days when renewable electricity generation slumps, says Sky News.’

    The alternative is they aren’t there to provide backup, and 90,000 people die.

    ‘The power industry is concerned some companies could be making massive profits on the occasional days when renewable electricity generation slumps’

    ‘Occasional.’ Cute.

    ‘Generators which step up to fill those gaps are charging record prices to “balance” the supply of electricity as our power grid rapidly shifts towards net-zero.’

    ‘Rapidly.’ Showing they have a sense of humor.

    ‘The costs are paid by the industry, but are ultimately passed on to bill payers.’

    Well, then, uhh . . . they are not paid by the industry.

    ‘“What we need to understand is how much of that is related to the price of gas given the international gas crisis, and how much of that is due to potential bad behaviour of generators who are quite frankly taking the mick in order to make excessive profits.”’

    Drive them out of business, you dick. Hundreds of thousands of people will die. Business will move out of England. Sky News be idiots.

  7. ivan says:

    There is a simple answer to this ‘problem’ – any wind or solar farm must have enough backup to replace a total loss of the renewable output paid for by the subsidy farmers. How they do that doesn’t matter, contracted out to coal fired power stations or banks of diesel generators.

    All the grid does is contract with the renewable suppliers for a fixed amount of electricity per month without having to be concerned if it will be supplied but there should also be penalty clauses in case the renewables fall short.

  8. avro- a simple answer- a gas has no surface so the Stefan-Boltzman equation does not work as that latter only applies to surfaces. A gas must be treated on a volume basis. If one is determining radiation absorption then path length needs to be a factor. If a path length is small there maybe no absorption of any wavelength by any molecules in the gas. In fact CO2 in the atmosphere only absorbs radiation from the Earths surface at a wavelength of 14.8 micron. Then only a small amount of that radiation is absorbed over a path length of 5-8 km because of the very low concentration. Then if a gas absorbs radiation what happens next? It can exchange heat to other molecules through convective transfer or it can radiant to space (note the 2nd law of Thermodynamics means it can not radiate back to the Earths surface and that applies to all gases including water vapour through the lapse rate). CO2 radiates to space from a temperature around 210K and this can be calculated using a modified equation outlined by Prof Hoyt Hottel (Prof of chemical engineering MIT) from engineering experimentation.

  9. Phoenix44 says:

    Well yes. And removing competition for the generation by destroying coal plants makes the problem worse. Who is surprised by this? It is utterly obvious and many people pointed out the issue years ago? It’s not difficult to anticipate – if you give a handful of providers essentially monopoly pricing they will charge highly. And why not if you keep telling them you are going to put them out of business and they are evil?

  10. Chaswarnertoo says:

    As if the morons weren’t warned over 5 years ago. On here as well as many other places.

  11. Jim says:

    Interesting. That’s why capitalism and private health are opposite each other. You cannot have both. Cheap power to keep warm, means fewer billionaires in space. Fewer smaller warship sized boats knocking down bridges. And maybe a grandparent able to scrape by longer.

  12. cognog2 says:

    Backup generators need to make large temporary profits when renewables fail in order to remain viable in the long term under the current outrageous government interference in the energy market.

  13. chickenhawk says:

    Jim, I’m a bit low on coffee today.

    Please try to explain again what you say?

  14. oldbrew says:

    Homes risk energy rating downgrade if they install a heat pump

    Ministers to overhaul Energy Performance Certificate rules amid fears of hit to house prices
    6 February 2022

    The Conservative MP Craig Mackinlay, the chairman of the Net Zero Scrutiny group, said: “Given that heat pumps can actually increase energy use, on which EPC certification is derived, they could push a property that might have been rated C under an old method into D.

    “That could make it both unrentable and possibly even unsaleable, if some of the more nonsensical Net Zero measures that we hear about are realised.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/02/06/homes-risk-energy-rating-downgrade-install-heat-pump/
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    Why the cost of net zero is too high for the country – and for Boris too

    As we head further and further into crisis, the question of whether the end goal justifies the means is looming large
    6 February 2022

    One estimate last week calculated that switching to heat pumps to keep the house warm, and installing chargers for the electric car to get around, would cost the average household £35,000 – or significantly more than the median after-tax household income of £30,800. In effect, 14 months of earnings are going to be eaten up by switching from one form of power that worked perfectly well to another one that still isn’t proven.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/environment/0/cost-net-zero-high-country-boris/

  15. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Jim. It’s not a zero sum game. That’s cobblers.

  16. oldbrew says:

    They’ve noticed that overall UK energy consumption is 80% gas and oil, and waffling about ‘net zero’ can’t change that any time soon.

    7 February 2022
    Six North Sea oil and gas fields to be fired up amid Cabinet row over net zero

    New drilling to be approved as Number 10 faces resistance over green moves and spending

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/07/six-north-sea-oil-gas-fields-fired-amid-cabinet-row-net-zero/

  17. tallbloke says:

    Physics…

  18. oldbrew says:

    You don’t say…

    Grid operators have to monitor the system second-by-second, trading and storing power to smooth out any imbalances.

    This task is becoming harder as the country moves away from burning “dirty” fossil fuels towards using cleaner but more unpredictable energy sources such as wind and solar.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/02/10/national-grid-drain-electric-car-batteries-times-peak-demand/
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    So having 4-5 times as many wind turbines as now is going to make things harder still, or easier? Can anyone work it out 🙄