Temps Cause CO2 Changes, Not the Reverse. 2022 Update

Posted: March 22, 2022 by oldbrew in Analysis, climate, data, Temperature
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This post is about proving that CO2 changes in response to temperature changes, not the other way around, as is often claimed.  In order to do  that we need two datasets: one for measurements of changes in atmospheric CO2 concentrations over time and one for estimates of Global Mean Temperature changes over time.

Climate science is unsettling because past data are not fixed, but change later on.  I ran into this previously and now again in 2021 and 2022 when I set out to update an analysis done in 2014 by Jeremy Shiers (discussed in a previous post reprinted at the end).  Jeremy provided a spreadsheet in his essay Murray Salby Showed CO2 Follows Temperature Now You Can Too posted in January 2014. I downloaded his spreadsheet intending to bring the analysis up to the present to see if the results hold up.  The two sources of data were:

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Comments
  1. Phil Salmon says:

    What this post needs – and the original article too – is a single histogram figure that shows purely what is the temporal shift between CO2 and temperature. Just that most important information.

  2. oldbrew says:

    This one uses the temp. anomaly…

  3. stpaulchuck says:

    the issue is NEVER the issue. All this Satanic Gases stuff is just cover for more power grabs by the usual suspects. They need us poor and needy without cars or money so they can rule over us like royalty. THAT is the real issue.

  4. Phil Salmon says:

    Thanks Oldbrew – what I was thinking was some kind of analysis, maybe Fourier related, that reduced the temperature and CO2 timings each to a single peak only, showing the average time difference.

  5. oldbrew says:

    Phil S – maybe Ron Clutz could do something like that?
    – – –
    New paper…
    The Sun Versus CO2 as the Cause of Climate Change Projected to 2050
    Authors
    H. Douglas Lightfoot
    The Lightfoot Institute, Canada
    Gerald Ratzer
    Professor Emeritus, McGill University, Canada

    Up-to-date science proves the IPCC concept is faulty. Scientists discovered that when the Sun’s energy output changes, it impacts the Earth’s temperature, and it does this cyclically. Current, reliable evidence shows the Earth has just come through a warm period. It is now in the early stages of cooling that might be similar to the Dalton Minimum and last for three or four decades.

    https://setpublisher.com/pms/index.php/jbas/article/view/2350

  6. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Finally, some sanity.

  7. oldbrew says:

    MARCH 22, 2022
    Arctic winter 2022 sea ice found to be 10th-lowest on record

    https://phys.org/news/2022-03-arctic-winter-sea-ice-10th-lowest.html
    – – –
    But it’s only a 43 year record 🥱

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