Demand Control: Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Means Routine State-Controlled Power Rationing

Posted: August 15, 2022 by oldbrew in Energy, Uncertainty, weather
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‘Energy transition’ means: “Energy availability depends on weather.” You probably knew that, but many who apparently don’t will find out soon enough.


Delusional reliance on unreliable wind and solar is a reason that governments are interfering in consumers’ power usage. Pitched under the euphemism “demand management”, state-controlled power rationing is the natural consequence of attempting to run on sunshine and breezes.

When the sun sets and calm weather sets in, wind and solar power can’t be bought at any price. Increase the capacity of the unreliables connected to your grid and get ready for not only rocketing power bills, but routine power rationing.

Once upon a time, electricity was cheap and it flowed like running water. Civil and ordered society demanded it.

These days, smart meters keep an eye on your power usage with the state ready to pull the plug without warning and without notice, notwithstanding that you are ready, willing and able to pay your bill.

The ability to slash your power usage is an altogether insidious exercise of power…

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  1. Gamecock says:

    I worked in power cost management 30+ years. In spite of compelling cost reasons to employ demand management, NO ONE would do it. It was always universally rejected.

    ‘Demand-side measures can substitute for supply-side resources’

    This will have to be compelled. NO ONE will voluntarily do it. Translation: demand management can only be achieved by cutting off people’s electricity. ‘Demand management’ means managing who they cut off.

    Net Zero means unreliable electricity. Unreliable electricity means collapse of Western economies. Which means inability to support a robust military. Which means the end of Western civilization. Net Zero is the real existential threat the Left keeps talking about.

    Complete with time table.

  2. oldbrew says:

    Lord Frost has been rattling a few cages…

    SUNDAY 14 AUGUST 2022 12:39 PM
    Exclusive: Energy boss slams Lord Frost for ‘guilty men’ net zero criticism

    In a column earlier this week, Lord Frost hammered the UK’s domestic energy policy as “criminally negligent” and said it was time to “get serious about energy policy.”

    Commenting on the future direction of the Tory party, he wrote: “The choice by net zero proponents to rely on renewables and interconnectors, and to run down storage, means we face blackouts, hideous business-crushing costs, and people shivering and dying in the cold. The people responsible for this are as culpable as the ‘guilty men’ whose policies ended up with German tanks at the Channel coast in 1940. They must be swept away from Day One.”
    . . .
    The National Grid’s electricity system operator is forecasting there will be sufficient power to avoid blackouts this winter, however critics have noted it is pricing in above-average overseas supplies being available via interconnectors.

    Earlier this summer, during the July heatwave, the National Grid was forced to pay record prices for energy from Belgium to stave off blackouts.
    . . .
    While Lord Frost has previously described wind power as “medieval” – the Government has set a target of 50GW of offshore power by the end of the decade, with wind generation achieving record low prices at the latest auction for sites.

    ‘wind generation achieving record low prices at the latest auction for sites’
    – Achieving? It suggests nobody values them all that much and/or lack of interest.

  3. Graeme No.3 says:

    Increase wind capacity 10, 20 or 50 times. What happens when there is no or too little wind?
    50 times zero is still zero.

  4. ivan says:

    I assume this means that those people living out in the countryside will need to buy a diesel generator to keep things working and the poor buggers that were conned into getting a ‘smart meter’ will be the first to be cut off when the wind isn’t blowing at night.

    So much for green energy and net zero – maybe all politicians and civil servants should be made to live with restricted/no electricity for a few months just to see how they like it.

  5. Saighdear says:

    Getting more herons to the Garden pond never got any fish either. will they ever learn? Calling such leaders “Bird-brained” is an insult to many birds

  6. Gamecock says:

    Ivan, I see home generators as a transitional step. As dependability of centralized generation wanes, some will get home generators. But they can’t be a long term, generalized solution, as private generation can’t compete with centralized production.

    So, successful man buys a generator to deal with intermittent supply, then 3 years later says, “The hell with it!”, and moves to another country. Times a million.

  7. ivan says:

    Gamecock, one problem I see with your vision – which country would the person move to? The EU is well on the way to being out of energy, France has several nuclear power stations off line and they are promising us power outages this winter. Germany is scrabbling to get coal fired stations back on line. Australia has gone green and relies on unreliable wind and solar. The only country that is thumbing its nose at the UN Church of Climatology scam is China and who wants to move there with all the lock down’s to keep control of the population.

  8. Gamecock says:

    Damn, ivan, you got me there. South America may be the last refuge of Western Civilization. India seems to still be friendly to Westerners.

    “You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.”

    ― Ronald Reagan

  9. oldbrew says:

    The UK has had the STOR sytem for years.

    It’s not just about choking off demand from domestic users.

  10. Gamecock says:

    “Providers of the service help to meet the reserve requirement by providing . . . demand reduction.”

    It will take monumental incentives to get “demand reduction.”

    “Hey, boss, they want us to reduce electricity demand. You want to take the money, or finish this order?”

    “Let’s finish the order.”

  11. oldbrew says:

    STOR – there’s an auction system and three payment types…
    – – –
    London nearly had a power blackout last week, forcing the UK to pay Belgium a record price for electricity to keep the capital connected.

    National Grid’s Electricity System Operator (ESO) paid £9,724.54 per megawatt hour – more than 5,000% higher than the usual price – to avoid an outage in southeast London last Wednesday, as first reported by Bloomberg.
    – – –
    Typical STOR prices may be a lot lower but not peanuts.

  12. Gamecock says:

    Like I said, monumental incentives.

  13. Phoenix44 says:

    What the government seems to be incapable of understanding is that “demand management” makes us poorer. Having to use less of what I want makes me poorer. This is a reduction in our wealth, wholly unnecessary and wholly unwanted.

  14. Saighdear says:

    Another day, another lack of wind……. Northerly winds down east coast – where are the windNills today? Melting Artic Ice – why is the wind so cold ? 8C forecast for Aberdeen ( in August ?) No Herons around here today either.

  15. Chaswarnertoo says:

    State controlled?!!! The snivel serpents are our EMPLOYEES.

  16. Curious George says:

    I live in California. Smart meters installed. Last February I got a government post card asking to register any life support devices in the house. The message is clear: blackouts are coming. I decided to buy a Honda generator (reportedly the best). Governor Gavin Newsom already banned them in California.

  17. oldbrew says:

    Utopian Fantasyland: Wind & Solar ‘Transition’ Total Delusion Being Sold By Total Fools
    August 20, 2022 by stopthesethings

    Every country that has hitched its energy future to sunshine and breezes is facing both a power pricing and supply calamity.

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