Climate change tsar hauled over the coals after warning Liz Truss against lifting fracking ban amid energy crisis

Posted: September 8, 2022 by oldbrew in climate, Energy, fracking, government, opinion
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Fracking: note the deep shaft


The battle of the crises – energy and climate. One real, one…not so much. Silence continues on the renewables intermittency question.
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The Government’s climate change tsar was told he needs to ‘live in the real world’ after he warned Liz Truss against lifting the fracking moratorium despite the energy crisis, reports the Daily Mail.

Lord Deben said approving fracking would have no impact on energy prices – and urged her to focus on renewables instead.

The Prime Minister is set to end the ban on the gas extraction method today, after pledging to take action during the leadership campaign.

But Lord Deben, who is chairman of the Committee on Climate Change, warned the PM yesterday the best way to solve the energy crisis was to double down on renewable sources rather than expanding domestic production.

He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: ‘There is no sliver of a cigarette paper between the fact that if you want to deal with climate change and you want to deal with the cost of living crisis and oil and gas prices you have to do the same things – renewable energy and energy efficiency –they are the answers.

‘If you want energy bills down, you produce your energy in the cheapest possible way. That happens to be by renewables.’

But last night Craig Mackinlay, part of the Net Zero Scrutiny Group of Tory MPs, who question the cost of meeting the Government’s climate targets, said: ‘Lord Deben and his Climate Change Committee need to come out of their ivory towers and live in the real world. We are facing an energy cost and supply emergency. It is time we unleashed the full potential of all sources of domestically derived power. Fracking could play a huge role in this. The best time for a UK energy policy would have been ten years ago. The second best time is now.’

Full report here.

Comments
  1. Philip Mulholland says:

    We appear to be at a moment of truth. Do we live in a democracy or a kleptocracy?

  2. Gamecock says:

    ‘If you want energy bills down, you produce your energy in the cheapest possible way. That happens to be by renewables.’

    “But, sir, renewables don’t produce energy.”

    Anthracitemorphism, to coin a word. He attributes fossil fuel characteristics to renewables, which they DON’T HAVE.

    Wind/solar extract energy, they don’t produce it. The energy is in the wind and sunlight. Man cannot control wind and sunlight. Man cannot use wind/solar as an energy source, though Man can use wind/solar to supplement real energy sources.

    Lord Deben doubles down on stupid.

  3. Saighdear says:

    What, Dumben is still around ? Time to be fired for some REAL heat. Plenty of fat / grease on ‘im – it’ll burn well. Hmm, convert to diesel ? Naw – that choked the fuel filters last winter – better just to make steam.

  4. ilma630 says:

    The PM and JRM could make no better first move than repeal the Climate Change Act without delay, and disband the CCC, and Deben with it, never to be heard from again. Then immediately give Cuadrilla the green flag.

  5. Philip Mulholland says:

    Wind/solar extract energy, they don’t produce it.

    @Gamecock,
    You make an excellent point.
    I will add that to my notion that electricity is not a source of energy, it is just a means of transmitting power.

  6. Lord Deben said:
    ‘If you want energy bills down, you produce your energy in the cheapest possible way. That happens to be by renewables.’

    If renewables is the cheapest possible way, why has the cost of energy gone up in all Western Countries while the cost of energy has gone down in China, Russia India and some others?

    Why has energy for people in Western Countries become less available while energy has become more available to more and more people in China, Russia India and some others?

    They are subsidizing renewables and penalizing nuclear and fossil fuels to cover their lies about renewables being cheap.

    Emissions of CO2 have gone up in China, Russia India and some others, order of magnitudes, to mine and process materials and build and ship the renewables. The structures and roads and all that is necessary for renewables has huge costs that is not even considered.

    Flooding downhill from the huge wind and solar farms and structures and roads and all that is necessary for renewables is considered as result from climate change, but it is a result of the renewables.

    They lie or they have seriously been fooled, gaslighted. Some lie and the others were fooled.

  7. if you want to deal with climate change

    First, allocate funds to actually study the climate system, the peer reviewed, settled, consensus, was dictated by political leaders and it is not questioned. That is not science, science “ALWAYS QUESTIONS”

    Climate has always changed in alternating warmer and colder cycles, we just came out of the little ice age, it is warm now because it is supposed to be warm now, it is not yet nearly as warm as the Medieval Warm period a thousand years ago when Vikings farmed in Greenland. The Roman Warm period, two thousand years ago was even warmer. Before that, all of the warm periods in the last ten thousand years was warmer than now, many of the colder periods in the last ten thousand years were warmer than now.

    They do not study history and data before thermometers were introduced, their unprecedented warming is only compared to the Little Ice Age, of course it is Warmer!

  8. […] Climate change tsar hauled over the coals after warning Liz Truss against lifting fracking ban amid … […]

  9. Coeur de Lion says:

    Does the CCC realise that UK emits one per cent of global CO2? And that the rise at 2ppm a year is unstoppable? So what are they for?

  10. P.A.Semi says:

    And we all thought BoJo is a comedian, but his replacement is beyond all ridicule… Oh poor Brits, it’s probably a revenge for Brexit…?

    As I’m from Czechia, now it’s turning to be really significant of Europe’s present and near future…
    In our language, woman surnames are always ending -ová , even the foreign ones, somehow similar as Icelandic woman names are ending -dottir …

    As Britain is going to be ruled by Líza Trus, or Líza Trusová, which literally means “(she) licks shit” in our language… “trus” is rather the small dense piece of shit of rabbits and other wild animals…
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trus#Czech

    Whereas Europe is ruled by Uršula Lejnová, where “lejno” (pronounced “leyno”) literally means “bullshit” in our language, the diarrhea lump from bovine animals…
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lejno#Czech

    As if the globalists, who install these moronic female puppets, wanted to tell us, where is the Europe heading ?

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    In your image about fracking – they should also mention, that the poisonous garbage pumped in the mile depth will resurface in next millenniums, poisoning the water supply… There’s probably no dirtier energy source than that…

    πα½

  11. Phoenix44 says:

    Does the Lord just lie is he actually unaware of the cost of renewables if fully costed?

    And he knows the future cost of gas how exactly?

  12. oldbrew says:

    INEOS offers to drill fracking test well
    9 September 2022

    Company says it would drill for free to prove fracking can work safely in the UK following PM’s speech

    “Shale has helped transform the energy landscape and the local communities in the US. It can do the same here in the UK.

    “We have promised to invest the first 6% of the value of the gas back into the local communities. It goes without saying that the Government would also have an increased tax take.”

    https://www.energylivenews.com/2022/09/09/ineos-offers-to-drill-fracking-test-well/

    Re. water supply, most people in the UK get tap water via water treatment plants.

  13. Coeur de Lion says:

    I have it on good authority that Lord Deben does not know that UK emits one per cent of global CO2. My contact tells me that he is not a liar, so I deduce ignorance.

  14. Stephen Richards says:

    I have personal experience of Gumball. He is definitely not on the side of the plebs. I might say corrupt but that would be unkind

  15. Gamecock says:

    We have told you a million times, Coeur de Lion, UK CO2 emissions are 0.04%.

    Are you hard of hearing?

  16. oldbrew says:

    ‘Lord Deben does not know that UK emits one per cent of global CO2’

    Would it make any difference if he did know?

  17. oldbrew says:

    King Charles III appears to signal an end to climate change activism

    ‘In his Friday speech, the new king did not mention the words “climate change,” and that, in and of itself, spoke volumes.’

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/king-charles-iii-appears-to-signal-an-end-to-climate-change-activism-174330601.html
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    Maybe.

  18. oldbrew says:

    Wind power generating 3.3% of UK electricity at the moment. Gas 55.6%. And they say gas is ‘back-up’ for renewables? 😂

  19. oldbrew says:

    ‘If you want energy bills down, you produce your energy in the cheapest possible way. That happens to be by renewables’

    Cost nothing when it’s dark and not windy.

  20. oldbrew says:

    Rees-Mogg announces energy strategy will focus on extraction of fossil fuels

    It comes as Green campaigners have reacted angrily to the appointment of Jacob Rees-Mogg as Business Secretary where he will be in charge of the energy and climate brief.

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/environment/watch-rees-mogg-announces-energy-strategy-will-focus-on-extraction-of-fossil-fuels-334745/
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    Green campaigners seem to be permanently angry 😴

  21. Graeme No.3 says:

    oldbrew:
    I am not personally acquainted with the behaviour of hungry pigs at a trough nor with Lord Deben or associates but…..

  22. hunterson7 says:

    Deben speaks untruth. How long has he done so?

  23. ivan says:

    hunterson7, to answer your question, he started while he was John Gummer that forced his daughter to eat a burger at the height of the bse scare. He was also the push behind the climate change act 2008.

    If the UK is ever going to progress parliament need to repeal that act which would stop most of the green stupidity and put Gummer out of a job.

  24. Chaswarnertoo says:

    Deben is a lying moron.

  25. oldbrew says:

    UK abandons net-zero energy policies for energy security
    September 13th, 2022

    “I’m ending the short-term thinking on energy once and for all. I’m acting now so people and businesses are supported with a new Energy Price Guarantee. I will tackle the root cause of the issue by boosting domestic energy supply to ensure we’re not in this position ever again.” —UK Prime Minister Liz Truss

    Having somewhere to burn domestic energy to generate our electricity would be handy.

    https://www.cfact.org/2022/09/13/fracking-liz-truss-energy-oil-gas-uk/

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