Artificial ocean cooling to weaken hurricanes is futile, study finds

Posted: September 10, 2022 by oldbrew in climate, Energy, geo-engineering, research, Temperature, weather
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What a surprise, said no-one.
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A new study found that even if we did have the infinite power to artificially cool enough of the oceans to weaken a hurricane, the benefits would be minimal, says Phys.org.

The study led by scientists at the University of Miami (UM) Rosenstiel School of Marine, Atmospheric and Earth Science showed that the energy alone that is needed to use intervention technology to weaken a hurricane before landfall makes it a highly inefficient solution to mitigate disasters.

“The main result from our study is that massive amounts of artificially cooled water would be needed for only a modest weakening in hurricane intensity before landfall,” said the study’s lead author James Hlywiak, a graduate of the UM Rosenstiel School.

“Plus, weakening the intensity by marginal amounts doesn’t necessarily mean that the likelihood for inland damages and safety risks would decrease as well. While any amount of weakening before landfall is a good thing, for these reasons it makes more sense to direct focus towards adaptation strategies such as reinforcing infrastructure, improving the efficiency of evacuation procedures, and advancing the science around detection and prediction of impending storms.”

To scientifically answer questions about the effectiveness of artificially cooling the ocean to weaken hurricanes, the authors used a combination of air-sea interaction theories and a highly sophisticated computer model of the atmosphere.

In their computer simulations, they cooled areas of the ocean up to 260,000 km2 in size—larger than the state of Oregon and equating to 21,000 cubic kilometers of water—by up to 2 degrees Celsius. Even with the largest area of cooling, the simulated hurricanes weakened by only 15 percent.

The amount of energy extracted from the ocean to achieve this small reduction is equivalent to more than 100 times the amount consumed across the entire United States in 2019 alone.

Full article here.

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  2. Gamecock says:

    ‘To scientifically answer questions about the effectiveness of artificially cooling the ocean to weaken hurricanes, the authors used a combination of air-sea interaction theories and a highly sophisticated computer model of the atmosphere.’

    Scientifically? And who was asking the questions? They haven’t found him yet.

    They played with their Xbox, and got it published.

    Scientifically proving phys.org will publish anything.

  3. catweazle666 says:

    “a highly sophisticated computer model of the atmosphere.”

    Who wrote it, Neil Ferguson?

  4. Saighdear says:

    @catweazle… not THAT kneel fergie from the Luny Uni out of Loony Doon City which courts our Government ? …. Paragraphs missing here: Wind failed again, and my battery failed. lost the lot, Hydrogen anyone? no bright sparks please: If NASA canna get it right, we shouldna meddle wi’ it.

  5. There are unknown consequences of things you do. Who knew that shutting down fossil fuels would cripple most all Western Countries. Actually, most thinking people knew, but the huge government subsidies for the wind and solar and the constant media and “so called peer reviewed consensus on settled climate science” kept the decision makers deaf to the opinions of the thinking people.

    If we could and did weaken hurricanes, there are likely many more regions that might never get enough rain.

  6. Ned Nikolov, Ph.D. says:

    @popesclimatetheory,

    Alex Pope, is that you? Very well said!

    I’ve stated this many times before – the failure of idiotic energy policies “inspired” by the “climate crisis” is a vivid manifestation of the collective stupidity of politicians and policymakers and the immense moral corruption of academics, who not only abolished the scientific method but also willingly manipulated data to support a false physical theory for the sake of grants & promotions… It’s an appalling situation!

  7. JB says:

    A study was necessary? Idiots.
    There’s already a ton of research and analysis on what drives hurricanes. I went looking once and found far more than I needed.

  8. oldbrew says:

    Won’t melting sea ice cool the oceans if Attenbore is right? The chances are he’s wrong anyway.

    David Attenborough’s Scaremongering About Arctic Sea Ice in His New BBC Series is Bordering on Misinformation
    12 SEPTEMBER 2022

    But he does make the astonishing suggestion that all the summer sea ice in the Arctic could be gone within 12 years.

    Unfortunately, such predictions are now out of date. Summer sea ice hit a low in 2012 and has been steadily recovering ever since.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2022/09/12/david-attenboroughs-scaremongering-about-arctic-sea-ice-in-his-new-bbc-series-is-bordering-on-misinformation/

  9. oldbrew says:

    USA Today has a graphical mini-tutorial: ‘How global warming happens’ in the middle of this link…

    September heat blazed across North Atlantic, melting ice and fueling Hurricane Danielle
    https://eu.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2022/09/12/september-heat-warms-north-atlantic-arctic-oceans-sets-records/8009795001/

    No mention of global cloud cover variations 🙄

  10. catweazle666 says:

    “Won’t melting sea ice cool the oceans if Attenbore is right?”

    Given that 334 J of energy are required to melt 1 g of ice at 0°C, presumably that energy has to come from somewhere, and the resultant water at 0°C will have some cooling effect.

    Mind you, I have seen no evidence that “climate scientists” and their ilk understand physical concepts as complex as the latent heat of fusion…

  11. oldbrew says:

    catweazle: new paper…’Destabilisation of the Subpolar North Atlantic prior to the Little Ice Age’ – discusses ‘Drivers of destabilisation’ (paragraph heading)

    Our current understanding of the transition involves the activation of coupled sea-ice ocean feedbacks that followed an increased export of Arctic sea-ice into the subpolar North Atlantic. This hypothesis implies synchronicity between intervals with high concentrations of sea ice and the destabilisation episodes that reflect the action of positive feedbacks.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-32653-x#Sec2

    Might do a post on that.

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