Use Covid lessons to curb climate change, Lords tell government

Posted: October 13, 2022 by oldbrew in climate, Emissions, Energy, government, net zero
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Government must ‘lead’ on home insulation, diet and travel reports BBC News – because…net zero. Lives must in effect be micro-managed in the supposed climate crisis.
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Information campaigns like those used in the Covid-19 pandemic would help individuals act on climate change, a House of Lords report has said.

To meet climate goals, a third of cuts to UK emissions by 2035 must come from people changing their behaviour, it says.

It calls the government’s current approach “seriously inadequate”.

In response the government said it is fully committed to its legally binding net zero climate goals.

The House of Lords report also advises government to financially support people to move to greener diets, transport and homes.

But calls to drive behaviour changes are at odds with Prime Minister Liz Truss’s focus on not intervening in people’s lives.

“I’m not going to tell you what to do, or what to think or how to live your life,” she told the Conservative party conference.

Ms Truss also ruled out a public information campaign to reduce energy use this winter.

“People will have different lifestyles and make different choices about what changes they need to make, but we’re quite clear that people need to be helped to take this forward,” Baroness Kate Parminter, chair of the House of Lords Environment and Climate Change Committee, which wrote the report, told BBC News.

The Covid-19 pandemic provided important lessons in how to communicate clearly, using science, to the public, she said.

“Covid was a crisis, the climate is a crisis. We can learn some very important messages around the communications and the scale of the problem,” she adds.

Transport, food and energy are the key areas where we will need to change our behaviour, the report says.

Full report here.

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  2. The Covid-19 pandemic provided important lessons in how governments can scare the public and get them to agree to do things that are clearly much more harmful than helpful.

    Harm from more CO2 has never been supported by actual real data.

    Benefit from more CO2 in how more CO2 improves the growth of green plants and benefit from how more CO2 improves the efficiency of how plants use water, have been proved many times. CO2 is elevated above 1000 parts per million in many greenhouses because of the real data that supports these facts.

    Real data, especially Ice Core Records, show that during the most recent ten thousand years, there have been alternating warmer and colder time periods in both polar regions that have cycled in the same bounds in Antarctic records and in cooling bounds in Greenland records. Greenland Ice Core Records show that climate is currently in the Coldest Warm Period in Ten Thousand Years.

    Open polar regions, during warmest times, when the sea ice and ice shelves are gone from Arctic and Antarctic Oceans, the ice core records document the accumulation of the most sequestered ice on land, in and around the polar regions. Most of the ice sequestered on Antarctica, that has not been pressed out by the weight of ice above it, was put there during the last major warmest time period between a hundred thousand years ago and one hundred fifty thousand years ago, and during the most recent ten thousand years. Much of the ice from warmest time periods, before two hundred thousand years ago, has been thawed and forced out, to cool the climate during the coldest periods before twenty thousand years ago.

    Warmest times uses tropical energy to evaporate polar oceans and sequester ice on land in the polar regions.

    Coldest times are caused by the more ice spreading, thawing, and being pushed into warm oceans to chill the currents to send cold cooling currents back the tropics.
    In coldest times, the ice pushed into tropical turbulent salt-water currents, chill the currents to below freezing, which forms sea ice, which turns off the evaporation and snowfall until the sequestered ice is depleted.

    The thermostat setting for this self-correcting climate control is the temperature that sea ice freezes and thaws. The forcing for this self-correcting climate control is the evaporation of the polar warm currents and the sequestering of ice which does perform the cooling many years later when the piled-up ice flows into the warm currents again to repeat the cold period.

    As Milankovitch moved the more solar input from the NH to the SH over the most recent ten thousand years:
    More sun in the NH caused more snowfall ten thousand years ago and less now.
    Less sun in the SH caused less snowfall ten thousand years ago and more now.

    It does not matter if more CO2 causes any warming or not, CO2 does not have any influence on the temperature that sea ice freezes and thaws.

    Climate change is natural, normal, necessary, self-correcting and thermostat controlled.

    When more people are partying in your house the AC just runs longer, if the AC system is adequate the temperature upper bound is controlled by your thermostat.

    Adding more energy to either hemisphere, which the orbit cycles clearly have done, will evaporate more tropical ocean currents and rebuild sequestered ice faster and longer as needed to cause another cold period.

    Adding less energy to either hemisphere, which the orbit cycles clearly have done, will evaporate less tropical ocean currents and rebuild sequestered ice slower and shorter as needed to cause another cold period.

    This has always occurred, and nothing has stopped the causes, nothing we can do by destroying “only” our western civilizations will stop it, nothing we can do by destroying “all” civilizations will stop it.
    History has shown that governments, civilizations, are destroyed, that governments, civilizations, destroy themselves, and natural climate change keeps on changing with alternating warmer and colder, natural time periods, before, during and after each government or civilization, is covered up by new growth, or by jungle or nothing.

  3. Saighdear says:

    Net Zero rubbish …. now its around 4 weeks already … and they missed a great opportunity for showcasing EVs NOTHING ZILCH. See what I mean? all that running around the country, and LIz ‘n her Chelsea tractors idling to take her around the block … the list is never ending. But WE have to be Zero’d

  4. Jaime Jessop says:

    More pysops nudge misinformation/propaganda campaigns needed to convince people to change their behaviour in order to bring an end to an imaginary climate crisis. Covid set the gold standard. Maybe I’m being optimistic, but I don’t think it’s going to work this time. Too many people have wised up and a supposed deadly plague is a bit more scary than bad weather, be that nice summer days or a bit too much rain.

  5. oldbrew says:

    ‘The House of Lords report also advises government to financially support people to move to greener diets, transport and homes.’

    Yes, give us some of our own money back. Mine’s going on meat, fuel, and gas central heating in my current home 🙂

    Those who want to obsess about carbon footprints for the rest of their lives, go ahead but don’t bore the rest of us.

  6. Chaswarnertoo says:

    They work for us. They need reminding of this. Delete the elite.

  7. Phoenix44 says:

    We are ruled rather than governed.

  8. Saighdear says:

    Yes, indeed as the many comments above: they work for US, huh, PAID by us but doing “Homers” ….. and then the rains are on strike, the bus fuel price goes up, and the Mail is on strike …. and we should be WFH ? and who pays for our electric power then? Look at todays News about Care workers paying for their own fuel to get to their Patients. No-can-Do. ( there’s a place in Upper Banffshire called Knockandhu )

  9. oldbrew says:

    Now they say the ‘climate crisis’ message has been greatly overdone…

    13-OCT-2022
    Researchers studying climate futures shouldn’t jump to extremes

    CU Boulder scientists call for greater emphasis on middle-of-the-road climate scenarios

    “People need to think in terms of gradations, not absolutes.”

    https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/967932
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    But most climate research still stakes everything on the ’emissions’ theory which has helped to foul up climate models for decades. Present and maybe future generations are badly served by such dogma.

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