Researchers studying climate futures shouldn’t jump to extremes, say scientists

Posted: October 14, 2022 by oldbrew in alarmism, Critique, net zero, opinion, predictions, research
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Earth and climate – an ongoing controversy


Hollywood-style climate scenarios may entertain some but the science content is suspect, judging by their failure to materialise. Excessive alarmism is self-defeating in the end as more of the public switches off.
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We’ve seen it splashed across news headlines: future sea-level rise that could consume the state of Florida, predicted global temperature spikes of 9 degrees Fahrenheit by 2100—threats of catastrophic climate scenarios leading to societal collapse, says Eurekalert.

But now, a University of Colorado Boulder-led team is pushing for climate scientists to put the more likely and plausible middle-range scenarios to the research forefront, instead of solely the worst-case futures.

“We shouldn’t overstate or understate our climate future,” said Matt Burgess, Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES) fellow, assistant professor at CU Boulder and lead on a letter published this week in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS).

“People need to think in terms of gradations, not absolutes. Yes, we need to be aware of the extremes, like climate solutions that get us to net zero before mid century, or on the flipside, global catastrophes. But it’s what’s in the middle that is more likely. And that deserves more research.”

The letter, coauthored by CU Boulder’s Roger Pielke Jr. and University of British Columbia’s Justin Ritchie, is a reply to a PNAS perspectives paper entitled, “Climate Endgame,” led by University of Cambridge’s Luke Kemp, that argues catastrophic climate futures, including human extinction, should be a main emphasis in climate research.

The CU Boulder team argues overemphasizing worst-case climate scenarios, like RCP 8.5, turns attention away from the most likely future.

“Right now, not as many climate models focus enough attention on middle scenarios,” said Burgess. “The SSP2-3.4 scenario, which might be one of the most plausible emissions scenarios, wasn’t featured at all in the IPCC’s latest impacts and physical science reports. That should probably change.”

Full article here.

Comments
  1. catweazle666 says:

    “We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
    Stephen Schneider

    Says it all.

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  3. oldbrew says:

    WRITTEN BY ROSS MCKITRICK ON OCT 14, 2022.

    The IPCC’s Climate Math Doesn’t Add Up. Will Anyone Notice?

    https://climatechangedispatch.com/the-ipccs-climate-math-doesnt-add-up-will-anyone-notice/

  4. OG says:

    What is most likely is a matter of opinion. Based on the evidence and the world response, including the response in the US, I do not see any reason to be optimistic. My opinion is the most extreme result will be the most likely outcome. People should be warned so that they can make informed choices. Then we may have an outside chance.

    [reply] Evidence and climate models are out of step

  5. Gamecock says:

    ‘But now, a University of Colorado Boulder-led team is pushing for climate scientists to put the more likely and plausible middle-range scenarios to the research forefront, instead of solely the worst-case futures.’

    They have no more evidence for ‘middle-range scenarios’ than for ‘worst-case.’ It’s all made up.

    “If you are going to lie, tell a whopper.” — Gamecock

    Go beyond ‘worst-case futures!’ Go for “It’s worse than worst-case !!! It’s the worstest possible . . . and beyond!’

    ‘Right now, not as many climate models focus enough attention on middle scenarios’

    I don’t even know what this means. Apparently, there are ‘worse-case’ models, and ‘middle scenario’ models. Presumably, minor scenario models, too. It has been assumed that models model global circulation – GCM. How a GCM model can be worst or middle FALSIFIES the whole damn process.

  6. Paul Vaughan says:

    From various random conversations I understand that many people think the northwest passage will soon be open permanently in winter.

    I don’t argue with them, but I do struggle to conceal my amused autonomic response.

  7. oldbrew says:

    But it’s what’s in the middle that is more likely. And that deserves more research

    If by research they mean more playing with climate models, not much can be expected. They prove to be unreliable all the time.

  8. ivan says:

    Anything to do with climate and computer models still suffers from GI=GO. No matter what they do the output will always be garbage.

  9. Phoenix44 says:

    Scientists being naive. The whole “climate crisis” narrative is false but was generated by Greens/Left/Media for political reasons. They will not drop it no matter what. There sendai is to ensure we have made irreversible changes long before we know whether their climate forecasts are correct.

  10. Gamecock says:

    You have it wrong, ivan. Their problem isn’t their inputs. Their problem is their software. They have no clue what they are doing.

    Then, hilariously, they ask for bigger computers, like hardware is their problem.

  11. oldbrew says:

    How global hurricane activity can rebut climate exaggeration
    By Joe Bastardi |October 13th, 2022

    https://www.cfact.org/2022/10/13/how-global-hurricane-activity-can-rebut-climate-exaggeration/
    . . .
    Joe Bastardi links to this 2014 research note and discusses it:

    Underwater Volcanic Activities Increased Exponentially In Recent Years

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20141014092847-97196790-underwater-volcanic-activities-increased-exponentially-in-recent-years
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    Gakkel Ridge

    The Gakkel ridge…is located in the Eurasian Basin of the Arctic Ocean, between Greenland and Siberia, and has a length of about 1,800 kilometers (approximately 1,120 miles).
    . . .
    Until 1999, it was believed to be non-volcanic; that year, scientists operating from a nuclear submarine discovered active volcanoes along it. The largest, the Gakkel Ridge Caldera, is a supervolcano that erupted approximately 1.1 million years ago during the Pleistocene.
    . . .
    [An] expedition found evidence of hydrothermal vents.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gakkel_Ridge

    Low-degree mantle melting controls the deep seismicity and explosive volcanism of the Gakkel Ridge [2022]

    Abstract
    The world’s strongest known spreading-related seismicity swarm occurred in 1999 in a segment of the Gakkel Ridge located at 85°E as a consequence of an effusive-explosive submarine volcanic eruption.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-30797-4

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