
Before getting too excited, note that the energy used was ‘enough to boil six kettles of water’, at vast expense and effort. Still some way to go to ‘save the planet‘, to borrow a time-worn phrase from climate melodrama.
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FUSION FIRST – Scientists have hailed a ‘true breakthrough’ as a fusion reaction has successfully generated more energy than was used to create it, says Imperial College London.
For over seventy years, scientists have been attempting to harness thermonuclear fusion – the power source of stars – to generate energy.
Fusion has the potential to produce vast quantities of clean energy using few resources, requiring only a small amount of fuel and generating limited carbon emissions.
Once a fusion plasma is ‘ignited,’ it will continue to burn for as long as it is held in place.
However, fusion reactions have proven difficult to control and no fusion experiment had previously produced more energy than had been put in to get the reaction going.
At a press briefing today, it was announced that a fusion experiment at the National Ignition Facility (NIF) at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in the US has achieved this ‘holy grail,’ producing more energy than the laser pulse that was used to heat the fuel.
The energy in the laser pulse was 2.05 megajoules – equivalent to the energy of two Mars chocolate bars, or enough to boil six kettles of water.
The energy from the fusion reactions was 50% higher than the energy of the laser pulse. It was released in the form of energetic neutrons.
Full article here.






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The Economist is underwhelmed…
Controlled fusion power is little nearer now than it was a week ago
Despite excited reports, the NIF’s announcement will not lead to civil fusion reactors
What the researchers at nif have done is to release more energy from the imploded pellet than was inserted by the incident laser beams. They have, in other words, lit a nuclear spark that has burned for a while through the pellet in a self-sustaining way—something never before achieved, and which might be scaled up to release a far bigger fraction of the potential energy in the pellet’s contents.
Neat, in principle. And important for understanding hydrogen bombs. But this approach can be a power source only if the energy released exceeds that employed to generate the laser beams, rather than merely exceeding that incident upon the pellet. Unfortunately, the huge inefficiencies involved in creating those beams mean that only a tiny fraction of that generative energy does arrive at the pellet. Not really the basis for a workable reactor. [bold added]
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/2022/12/13/controlled-fusion-power-is-little-nearer-now-than-it-was-a-week-ago
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NPR chimes in…
U.S. reaches a fusion power milestone. Will it be enough to save the planet?
Updated December 13, 2022
Unless there’s an even larger breakthrough, fusion is unlikely to play a major role in power production before the 2060s or 2070s, says Tony Roulstone, a nuclear engineer at Cambridge University in the U.K., who’s done an economic analysis of fusion power.
“I think the science is great,” Roulstone says of the breakthrough. But many engineering obstacles remain. “We don’t really know what the power plant would look like.”
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/13/1142208055/nuclear-fusion-breakthrough-climate-change
Now the Telegraph reported this morning reported they input (used) 2.1 megajoules of energy to achieve a “fusion ignition” with a 2.5 megajoules return. Well I guess that output is enough to boil water for a cup of tea but they lied about the input energy. They also mentioned a “Holy Grail” reached of more GIGO positive. Well, if it’s BS they mean, then I believe it!
I think Roulstone has a point but he expressed it badly. We already have a working fusion reactor just 150 km from Earth. If you want to tap its energy, hey, it’s free! Just collect as much as you want from solar panels in orbit and beam it down. All it needs is engineers with common sense rather than boffins with big and stupid egos.
Yeh, I typoed the missing150 million kilometers.
So what generates the input energy in this new fairy-tale world? Wind? Solar? Fusion nuclear?
Is this the equivalent of a Daily Express statins story?
This was the lead story on the BBC news tonight, and online. Much hype but then the reality…
‘The experiment was only able to produce enough energy to boil about 15-20 kettles and required billions of dollars of investment. And although the experiment got more energy out than the laser put in, this did not include the energy needed to make the lasers work – which was far greater than the amount of energy the hydrogen produced.’
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-63950962
Will the power be “too cheap to meter” like we were assured the output of Calder Hall would be when it came on-line in 1956?
“energetic neutrons”…
Now that is a problem all of its own. A “fusion reaction” in which there is no durable tech to convert it to charge flow, otherwise known as electric current.
It’s tinsel for the Biden admin. Nice try but no cigar.
OB By the time you’ve converted that 2.5 megajoules to useful electricity and taken it over transmission lines to kettles maybe one kettle will whistle. I guess at the BBC empty kettles also make noise (whistle in the wind) while making your blood boil.
I suppose we shouldn’t be too negative. Remember the first home computers or mobile phones?
OTOH they weren’t up against the laws of physics 😎
Here you go, oldbrew!
@catweazle666,
This picture speaks volumes about our (in)ability to predict future technological progress… 🙂
Love all the analogue dials. Is it steam powered?
Back to the fusion:
The 3.15 megajoules of fusion output energy were produced at the expense of 400 megajoules of electrical input energy. A fusion device that loses 99.2 percent of the energy it consumes, in a reaction that lasts for 0.00000000009 of a second, does not indicate technology that could provide an abundant zero-carbon alternative to fossil fuels.
Times change…
“I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.”
Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943
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In our pockets, we carry computers with capabilities far exceeding those that took mankind to the Moon.
https://www.jadek-pensa.si/en/i-think-there-is-a-world-market-for-maybe-five-computers/
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Sky News perspective…
Nuclear fusion breakthrough offers hope for future generations – but the reality may be more complicated
13 December 2022
First, consider that although the US team got more energy out of their reaction chamber than they put into it, the overall energy they had to put into their power-hungry lasers to create the star-like conditions for the reaction to occur was 100 times what they got out of the fusion.
That’s a 99% loss, not a net energy gain.
The other important caveat is the incredible National Ignition Facility (NIF) at the Laurence Livermore Lab in California, which achieved the result, isn’t a fusion reactor. It’s an experimental tool whose primary function is to test atomic weapons for the US government.
The fusion event they created lasted about 100 trillionths of a second and produced enough energy to boil about seven kettles. A whopping amount of power given the timescales – but hardly the energy source of the future.
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Some of the problems of making a commercial scale reactor get exponentially larger with size, says fusion scientist Dr Richard Pitts.
https://news.sky.com/story/nuclear-fusion-breakthrough-offers-hope-for-future-generations-but-the-reality-may-be-more-complicated-12767678
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More decades of expensive research is all that can be guaranteed.
Not waiting for fusion…
Japan Is Bringing Back Nuclear Power To Protect Its Energy Security
Dec 16, 2022
A panel of experts under the Japanese Ministry of Industry decided that Japan would allow the development of new nuclear reactors and allow available reactors to operate after the current limit of 60 years.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Japan-Is-Bringing-Back-Nuclear-Power-To-Protect-Its-Energy-Security.html