Electric Cars: Square Peg, Round Hole

Posted: January 27, 2023 by oldbrew in Critique, Travel

Who wants to pay a lot more for a less useful product that loses its value much faster than what it’s supposed to be replacing – in order to achieve what?

PA Pundits International

By Duggan Flanakin ~

The big story of 2023 just might be the clash between those who have imposed electric vehicle mandates and those for whom an electric vehicle is not on their shopping list.

The federal government, many state governments, and much of the automobile industry – and their counterparts worldwide – have decreed that the world abandon the internal combustion engine in favor of the (often-coal-fired) electric vehicle.

Mandates for banning new sales of conventional vehicles are as plentiful as schemes to disallow further production of “evil” fossil fuels that brought a total transformation of the world economy in little more than a century. Moreover, most automakers have pledged to end production of conventional vehicles within the next few years.

While sales of EVs “boomed” last year, the 6 million EVs still comprise less than half a percent of the world’s 1.4 billion vehicles. Yet Bloomberg…

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  1. oldbrew says:

    Study calls for reduction in car ownership, battery size and vehicle dependency to limit environmental impact of surging lithium demand
    25 January 2023

    A report prepared by the Climate and Community Project, a climate policy think tank, with researchers from UC Davis, suggests that the United States can achieve zero emissions transportation while limiting the amount of lithium mining necessary by reducing the car dependence of the transportation system, decreasing the size of electric vehicle batteries, and maximizing lithium recycling.
    . . .
    If today’s demand for EVs is projected to 2050, the lithium requirements of the US EV market alone in 2050 would require triple the amount of lithium currently produced for the entire global market. This boom in demand would be met by the expansion of mining.

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    Sounds like a future shortage of EVs and/or shorter range models for the masses, like this…

    ‘the electric motor is a modest one delivering 27 HP’

  2. saighdear says:

    Oh ain’t it cute? ( dat foto of de wee wee 27hp car )
    BUT ! adopting a “cart before the horse” approach is the Norm for UK investment. ( witness current logic too, Cromarty Firth gets Freeport status: has poor communications with rest of world, nay – rest of the Country, NO! remainderof SCOTLAND, even ). This morning’s Highland news on the back of this junk, WICK Airport wants to get better links with outside world ( from hundred miles up the road) and the nation still talks of all this EV nonsense. Batteries and charging ? if LIthium is to be so scarce, why are we promoting more and more cordless household tools, etc, E-bikes and all. ‘Study calls for reduction in car ownership, battery size and vehicle dependency to limit environmental impact of surging lithium demand’ Yes 27hp may well be enough, yet thereis an industry promoting bigger than big enough motors for folk to help consume oil. Why are European trucks so much more powerful than American trucks as example? SUV et al. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVDIGe0y-to
    as for square peg in round hole? Ask Sturgeon this now! Green politics for sure, OR ?

  3. brianrlcatt says:

    Makes sne for a few people in inner cities with short Journey times and a lot of charging infra structure accessible. Otherwise impractical and overpriced solution to a non problem, on the engineering, environmental and cost measures, at least. Are there any others? Oh yes, virtuous belief bragging rights for the woke on things that aren’t a problem and don’t matter, used to claim these unaffordable beliefs justify these in reality overpriced, resource intensive and net zero effect snake oil solutions.

  4. Phoenix44 says:

    We seem to have hit a physical technology wall across the board. Many of our technologies are pretty old – ICEs, railways, jet engines, rockets, transistors, radio, x-rays etc with only a trickle of really ground-breaking technologies appearing e.g. LEDs. IT has made a big difference but in may ways, somebody who died in 1950 wouldn’t have much trouble making sense of 2023, whereas somebody from 1900 would. No doubt we can make small improvements in EVs and batteries but the belief we will make substantial advances seems misplaced. Of course many Greens/Lefities don’t care, they just want to impose their political views on us all, but a great number of others have staked their reputations and careers on pie in the sky wishful thinking I suspect.

  5. Graeme No.3 says:

    One of the “solutions” to short range problem would be to increase the size of the battery -Oops! extra weight negates that.
    How about increasing the power density of the battery (more energy stored for the same weight)? Oops! More energy concentrated so worse fire problems WHEN things go wrong.
    One “solution” might be to lighten the vehicle by removing the battery – lower weight, less fire risk. Motive power could be supplied by a horse although given the ‘thinking’ current in Whitehall it would have the vehicle in front. (Cart before horse?)

  6. stpaulchuck says:

    “more magic beans” solution to a non existent problem. The REAL problem as the elites see it is that we have too much freedom leading to free thinking people that are not easily controlled. Kill the economy. Kill personal transportation. Reduce food production to just above starvation level. Etc.

    Their goal is a docile herd of easily commanded sheeple. My observation is that it very well might blow up in their faces as po’d people make direct attacks on them and their systems bringing it crashing down and them with it. I give you France and the reign of terror.

    Let the tumbrils roll. Madame Guillotine will be waiting for them. I will try to find a seat not too near the front.

  7. ivan says:

    oldbrew, the EV you picture must be designed for the 15 minute sustainable city of the WEF and UN Agenda 2030. Not useful for anything else.

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