The so-called savings come from *not* paying some of the constraint costs of excess wind energy production. The Sky News headline about saving ‘billions’ turns out to mean some unknown time in the future when many more such installations might be online. They ignore the fact that batteries have a limited life span and, being lithium-ion types, can suffer expensive or even disastrous overheating problems.
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It looks like a self-storage park: rows of shipping containers in a patch of Merseyside waste ground, says Sky News.
But appearances can be deceptive as this is the first step in saving billions of pounds off bills and millions of tonnes of carbon.
It’s a mega-battery.
Let’s take a step back. One of the great advantages of fossil fuels, and one we take largely for granted, is they are so easy to store. Piles of coal, drums of oil, tanks of gas. They just sit there waiting for a deliberate spark.
Renewables are different: you can’t hold the wind or bottle the sun. As the proportion of green power on our grid grows so does this inconvenient truth.
The variable and uncontrollable nature of solar and wind is not a new discovery, but it is only now that we are coming close to an affordable solution: massive banks of lithium-ion batteries similar to those in a laptop, phone and only affordable now thanks to their use in electric cars.
Sky News has been given exclusive access to Europe’s biggest grid-linked battery just after switch-on. It covers an area of around two football pitches in nearly one hundred containers and can store as much electricity as 1,500 electric cars, taking in the uneven power from wind turbines and smoothing it out for local homes and businesses.
If you didn’t do this, lights would dim, or wires could melt. Most of that job today is done by either firing up mini generators – so called gas-peakers – to fill the power troughs or turning turbines off to prevent surges.
James Basden, CEO of the operator Zenobe, says their batteries will cut carbon emissions.
“Battery storage sites like this are enabling more wind power to come on, but also it’s shutting down the gas generators that are currently operating and as a result we save huge amounts of CO2.”
But they should also cut bills too. When wind farms must turn off, they are paid to do this, paid to not generate. This is known as “curtailment” and the total cost is over half a billion pounds per year and rising as we have more renewables in the energy mix.
Zenobe and other big battery developers say if we can store it, we can use it and not pay to waste it.
“This is pushing power back onto the grid in a very consistent and predictable way… So sites like this are going to reduce the amount of curtailment. This site itself will save somewhere between 50 and £100m to consumers over the next 15 years.”
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But none of these storage technologies is yet sufficiently mature to fill long winter spells of windless cloudy weather. To keep the lights on, some baseload of nuclear and reserve of gas power is likely to be needed for a few decades yet.
Full article here.







none of these storage technologies is yet sufficiently mature
When are ‘mature’ batteries expected then?
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some baseload of nuclear and reserve of gas power is likely to be needed for a few decades yet
Isn’t the so-called climate crisis supposed to be *now*?
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UK Gridwatch as of now has gas+nuclear > 55%, imports at > 14%, wind 8.6%. Local temperature 9-10°C.
Reblogged this on Utopia, you are standing in it!.
“This site itself will save somewhere between 50 and £100m to consumers over the next 15 years.”
Until it gets hit by lightning, earthquake, and very hot summers.
Do those consumer savings include what they add in green levy to the electricity bills
At another site in the same area…
Fire at 20MW UK battery storage plant in Liverpool
September 16, 2020
https://www.energy-storage.news/fire-at-20mw-uk-battery-storage-plant-in-liverpool/
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Huge Merseyside blaze which took 59 hours to extinguish was caused by explosion at controversial mega-battery site
— Revelation raises concerns over Government plans to roll out solar farms
— These rely on giant lithium batteries to store excess energy
— The fire in 2020 threatened to engulf the Liverpool suburb in toxic plume of gas
— Had taken long time put out the blaze after water hydrants proved inadequate
By AMY OLIVER FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 3 April 2022
Dr Edmund Fordham, a fellow of the Institute of Physics, said it was ‘a warning of what may be to come with much larger battery farms’.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10680335/Huge-Merseyside-blaze-took-59-hours-extinguish-caused-explosion.html
It was switched on today? Zat how my battery charger blew it’s fuse? Just thinking – did it give or take electricity from the Grid, ‘cos mid afternoon there was barely 10% share of Supply from the metal Herons.. More life in a Wooden Matchstick.
It is a commercial disguised as a news item.
The ‘Big Battery’ at the Hornsdale wind farm, South Australia is quite profitable but it cannot supply more than 6 minutes of demand (and at practical discharge rates it is useless for covering lack of wind).
When the wind blows the price drops, so the wind farm stores some electricity and can sell it when the wind drops and the price is higher.
So Sky admits that renewables cost us £500m a year in curtailment but doesn’t think that’s a big problem, but batteries saving us one tenth of that are a huge step forward.
It’s Fantasyland.
When are the unreliable renewables going to be charged for when the coal fired plants have to be started to make up for their non production?
Maybe all the renewable producers should have to quote on what they expect to produce every six months and get paid for that at the end of the six months. If they produce more it is their responsibility to deal with the over production and if they don’t produce it is also their responsibility to make good the shortfall. We would then see the real cost of renewables and I expect many of the subsidy farms would shut down.
The other thing, why aren’t the builders of the bird mincers required to put money into an escrow account to cover the removal of the monsters when they reach end of life?
I assume we won’t see anything like that because the rule makers would lose money because of it.
Not one bit of actual scientific or engineering data in that puff piece on Sky.
It is just a meaningless advert and propaganda.
The knock-on costs of renewables – batteries, long transmission lines, support from fuel-powered energy, waste disposal etc. – get dumped anywhere except where they belong i.e. on the producers.
National Grid spends £4bn to prevent blackouts after surge in wind and solar
Record balancing payments needed to match supply with demand
15 February 2023
National Grid was forced to spend more than £4bn to keep the lights on during 2022 following a surge in power prices and a jump in intermittent wind and solar power.
The company spent a record £4.2bn on balancing payments – taking actions such as importing power from abroad, ramping up gas stations, or turning off wind turbines, to make sure supply always matches demand.
The so-called “balancing costs” are ultimately added to consumers’ bills, on top of high energy costs which are fuelling a cost–of-living crisis.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/02/15/national-grid-spends-4bn-prevent-blackouts-surge-wind-solar/
Madness. They were turning off wind turbines while running gas plants.