Opposing wind farms morally unacceptable – ‘expert’

Posted: March 25, 2023 by oldbrew in Big Green, climate, net zero, opinion, wind
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Well, the alleged expert Lord Deben – shortly to quit as chair of the pompously named Climate Change Committee – would say that, wouldn’t he?
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Communities opposed to wind turbines in their local area do not have an “acceptable moral position” according to a climate change expert.

Dozens of large-scale wind farm applications are being considered as Wales tries to reach net zero, says BBC News.

Campaigners say the ambition is putting the Welsh countryside at risk and south Wales already has several wind farms.

Lord Deben, the UK Climate Change Committee chairman, said the onus was on everyone to help reach the target.

“We can’t all the time say we’re in favour of things but somewhere else,” he said.

“That isn’t an acceptable moral position.”

Across Wales communities are mobilising to object to wind farm and pylon developments in their areas.

From Conwy to Carmarthenshire, across mid Wales and the south Wales valleys, hundreds of campaigners are sharing information and ideas about how to fight what they call “colossal” turbines.

In Cwmafan, Neath Port Talbot, Rhodri Williams and Andrew Thomas said in lockdown the hills above their town were a sanctuary, but that peace is at risk from a proposed plan to build 21 turbines which will be visible from their homes.

“At over 200m (656ft) we’re talking around the size of the Eiffel Tower,” said Mr Thomas.

“That’s absolutely colossal. If you stand at the foot of the Eiffel Tower and look up and then you imagine that on top of a mountain range that is already 350m (1,148ft) above sea level. ”

Mr Williams is concerned about the impact on people’s health and the environment and says he would rather they were offshore.

‘Doing our fair share’

“We don’t need these, there are plenty of alternatives. It causes a lot of grief and stress for those who live near them and we should be looking at alternatives like hydro, we should be looking at floating offshore wind, and the tidal lagoon in Swansea,” he said.

“There are over 200 wind turbines in south Wales already, we’re doing our fair share.”

But according to the chairman of the UK’s independent Climate Change Committee, Lord Deben, it is not “proper” to say other places should shoulder the burden for tackling climate change.

Full article here.

  1. ivan says:

    I think we all know the definition of an expert that was coined back in the 60s.
    X – is the unknown quantity and a SPURT – is a drip under pressure.
    It fits Gummer to a t , from the time he forced his daughter to eat a hamburger for the TV crew during the BSE scare, up to any of his pronouncements on climate change that forced the government to do stupid things because the UN Church of Climatology said so.

  2. saighdear says:

    Aye, eh, I remember him from Agri days: the lord o’ ‘e bending gums ! ( We call it something else up here – to do with bumping) He needs to be reminded that “Thou shall not worship false gods”. So since he has been at it now for decades, WHY & WHO is behind and pulling his strings: time they wer cut and the stage erased.

  3. Peter Norman says:

    It gets worse. RWE AG are now seeking to populate the Celtic Sea with 1GW of floating wind turbines. Wiki says the Hywind (Scotland) experience indicates these cost 3 times static offshore turbines and 10 times the land based windmills. The NIMBYs problem is to be solved by everybody paying bigger electricity bills in worship of the green Lord Deben and Baroness Worthington.

  4. Curious George says:

    Experts don’t live near wind farms. Morally unacceptable …

  5. dscott8186 says:

    Is it moral for wind generators to slaughter birds and bats by the thousands every year? Funny how you have to destroy the ecosystem to save it… Are dead birds and bats considered a negative carbon credit? How about if they are on the endangered species list?


  6. hakinmaster says:

    As someone said at the height of the CJD scare:
    There’s not many dumber,
    Than John Selwyn Gummer.

  7. catweazle666 says:

    Troughsnouter extraordinaire John Selwyn Gummer wouldn’t recognise “an acceptable moral position” if it bit him on the ass.

  8. saighdear says:

    Huh, catweazle666, didn’t know he had a farm (where the donkey is). Maybe the donkey is over here… Motto: Duc In Altum (Put Out Into The Deep) Oh but then again, yes he does farm – has plenty pockets where he seems to be getting a good yield! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6661513/Climate-Change-chief-John-Gummer-faces-calls-quit-payments-green-businesses.html

  9. Phoenix44 says:

    TBF, what he actually says is that it’s morally unacceptable to say you want wind farms but that they must go somewhere else. That’s a pretty fair comment really.

  10. liardetg says:

    I love ‘tackling climate change’. Why isn’t he called out on his total failure?

  11. oldbrew says:

    If everyone says wind farms should go somewhere else… where’s that? The real problem is the belief that they can solve any real or imagined problems.

  12. stpaulchuck says:

    Phoenix44 says:
    March 26, 2023 at 3:23 pm

    and that’s exactly what this twatwaffle if doing. I didn’t hear him requesting them put on his estate or farm.

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