
Gotta keep those climate alarm bells ringing in media-land! A review of the Guardian’s habitual Gulf Stream misreporting.
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Is there no loyalty among climate extremists? – asks David Whitehouse @ Net Zero Watch.
The Guardian makes a mistake about the fundamental difference between the Gulf Stream and the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and suddenly everyone is on its case, some accusing it of sloppy reporting, others demanding a correction of its fake news (which didn’t come.)
To be fair it wasn’t just the Guardian – the BBC, CNN and others also got it wrong.
The slowdown or possible collapse of Atlantic currents was everywhere on the internet.
We are heading for a collapse, said CNN, Warming could push the Atlantic past a ‘tipping point’ said the New York Times, ‘near collapse, added the Washington Post. Is a mega ocean current about to close down, asked the Scientific American?
The Gulf Stream – which brings warm water to North West Europe – is not the same as the AMOC. They are two fundamentally different currents. Unless the Earth ceases to be a globe, ceases to have oceans and ceases to turn – something that even the Guardian hasn’t yet alarmed us about – the Gulf Stream will be with us.
The AMOC is important for climate because it is the large-scale overturning motion in the Atlantic. It has demonstrated instabilities in the past, especially during the last Ice Age due to large influxes of fresh water.
It has weakened over at least the past 100 years, possibly the last thousand years. Some believe this weakening, or at least its most recent activity, is due to human influence, but that is mostly conjecture as we do not understand the decadal and centennial natural variability of the AMOC, let alone longer-term ocean cycles. Standard climate models maintain that the risk of the AMOC collapsing is small.
It’s not as though the Guardian hasn’t been fighting on the alarmist front using ocean currents many, many time before.
Last year it told us that we are on the brink, or may even have passed, five ‘disastrous’ tipping points; the collapse of Greenland’s ice cap, the melting of permafrost, changes to the great northern forests, the loss of mountain glaciers and of course, the collapse of the AMOC.
Two years ago the same journalist told us the same story … that ‘scientists had spotted warning signs of Gulf Stream collapse’ – again confusing the Gulf Stream with the AMOC.
The tipping points also make another appearance as they may have been crossed two years previously.
Read more here [with media links].






Are these ‘scientists’ playing computer games again because they are talking about ‘tipping points’ and we only see that when they play games.
…huh, and STILL there is no response to my earlier Comments about a coupla weeks ago when the National Broadcaster’s Weather forecaster referred to the CHANGING Gulf stream affecting our weather, when I “think” they should have said it was the DIRECTION of the Jet Stream.
So, basically, the MSM have no idea about simple physics and Air / water streams, etc let alone have an understanding of most ANY physical entity. Now you would have thought, too, that the NEWS would be telling us regularly ( Informing us) about the LOW output of the wind n Solar generators: @ Gridwatch, t’day WOW! we are getting a massive ( sarc) 10GW prod’n and Solar – a massive 25% ( of the Wind output ) and / whilst our INDUSTRIAL (sarc again ? ) Nation is consuming only around 30GW ( 28.877 as I write) – barely HALF of what we may have been consuming. QUESTION: If this consumption relates to our reduced energy for the same production, WHY are we still “having climate issues”…. And in the UK we were complaining of a cold Summer / July. Why were we happy to support / agree with the UN GONKZ bumping their gums about the Earth suffering from Global Burning / heating/boiling, whatever? So now we have August – more complaints – no summer ( yet) – Had our Summer = Flaming June. Period. Get over it.
But the Food supply is suffering, (non existent crops of some fruit) Wasps abound ( never seen so many nests – in weird places= Inside a clean Hay Baler, inside the Welder / Generator, in the ground, and wasps all over the tattie shaws: Ouch! Potato Roguing and Sampling never felt so sore!
It’s Clouding over again = COLD & really DULL… All that talks about a great Moon ! ? I just want to Grow some food and have flowers for my enjoyment. No luck there this year. Just a tax Bill and dearer Booze to drown the sorrows While I’m reminded on TalkTV that the Rushing Sook was up earlier to See Fergus about drowning CO2 – nothing about that in the MSM earlier this week either, eh?
In 2019 we read this…
Arctic sea ice loss affects the jet stream
14 Jun 2019
https://physicsworld.com/a/arctic-sea-ice-loss-affects-the-jet-stream/
Which conflicts somewhat with this (2023) – no sea ice trend for 15 years…
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I’m 72. For as long as I can recall such matter, the Gulf Stream has been collapsing. Since the 60s I’d say. Ho hum, eh? Mind you, the Guardian collapsed as a reputable broadsheet a long time ago. Indeed, I was brought up on the Manchester Guardian, a fine newspaper. Moving to London and being gobbled up by the Cosmopolitan Liberal Elite destroyed it. And employing Toerags like Polly Toynbee. Poll once had a website dedicated to nailing the falsehoods she propagated in her “journalism”.
When I went to the UK in 1977 I looked at the newspapers and ranked them as worse from The News of the World (I think, but I occasional got a copy on a lazy Sunday without believing a word), The Daily Mirror (slightly behind the Sun), then the Guardian, followed by several others and decided that the Telegraph was the best (largely because their superb puzzles pages) and their political writer whose comments on the House of Commons was presented as a ‘cricket match’.
The Times and the Financial Times weren’t “my cup of tea”.
When I went back in 2013 I found that The Guardian had slipped.
Curiously saighdear, I haven’t seen a single wasp this year!
Have you nicked them all?