Real ‘solutions’ like degrading entire economies and reducing living standards? How many toytown ‘climate innovations’ does it take in order to grasp that such things are always a dead end, and often an expensive one? The tedium of COP meetings repeating the same worn-out themes grinds on and on.
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Machines to magic carbon out of the air, artificial intelligence, indoor vertical farms to grow food for our escape to Mars, and even solar-powered “responsible” yachts: the Cop28 climate summit in Dubai has been festooned with the promise of technological fixes for worsening global heating and ecological breakdown, says Yahoo News.
The UN climate talks have drawn a record number of delegates to a sprawling, freshly built metropolis, which has as its centrepiece an enormous dome that emits sounds and lights up in different colours at night.
The two-week programme is laden with talks, events and demonstrations of the need for humanity to innovate its way out of the climate crisis.
Given the ponderous action by governments to cut planet-heating emissions – the world is still hurtling towards disastrous climate breakdown [Talkshop comment – if you believe media like The Guardian] – the tech focus is helpful, said Bill Gates, the multi-billionaire Microsoft co-founder, as he ventured into the Dubai sunshine.
“I’m most optimistic about the incredible innovation,” he said. “People’s willingness to pay for climate is limited … We need to really innovate. You have to create the new before you shut down the old.”
But this fixation has alarmed some scientists and climate activists, who warn that technologies are being used to distract from the primary task of stopping fossil fuels being burned. Cop28’s president, Sultan Al Jaber, also the head of the UAE’s national oil company, has questioned the feasibility of a fossil fuel phase-out.
A record number of fossil fuel lobbyists are at this Cop, including Darren Woods, chief executive of Exxon, who has said he wants an “emphasis put on a problem statement of eliminating emissions, versus a problem statement focused on the oil and gas industry per se.”
“It’s frightening because they see this as a new business opportunity, a new way to make money and continue as before,” said Pierre Friedlingstein, a climate researcher at the University of Exeter, of the hopes being ladled upon carbon removal technologies.
Total current technology-based CO2 removal, excluding nature-based means such as planting new forests, removes just 0.01m tonnes of CO2, according to recent research led by Friedlingstein, which is more than a million times smaller than current fossil fuel CO2 emissions.
Full article here.







What,you mean like researchers found that graphene’s thermal qualities might not be as groundbreaking as first believed. ? ( as an example)
https://www.azonano.com/news.aspx?newsID=40546
Add Green Hydrogen Fuel projects to the list of bogus tech initiatives (map from IEA)
https://rclutz.files.wordpress.com/2023/12/hydrogen-fuel-projects-map.png?w=1000&h=562
More magic money needed, as always.
Machines to magic carbon out of the air
How’s that going?…
Fatih Birol, executive director of the International Energy Agency…said that the sweeping expectations placed upon such technologies have largely fallen flat so far: “When I look at the last 15 years or so, the story of CCS is, to say the least, a disappointing one.”
That bad? Oh dear…
An extra 86bn tonnes of greenhouse gases could be released by 2050 if CCS is relied upon but underperforms, a new report by Climate Analytics has warned, while a major buildout and use of this technology will cost the world an extra $1tn a year, a separate study by Oxford University has found. [bold added]
Anyone got a ‘$1tn a year’ to spare? Don’t be shy 🙄
Did someone say ‘pension funds’?
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‘Green hydrogen’ made with electricity strongly suggests it has to cost even more than said electricity.
Ned N rubs it in…
I like “indoor vertical farms”, undoubtedly powered by an indoor Sun.
our escape to Mars
Using electric rockets?
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UK’s first air capture plant is turned on to remove CO2 from the atmosphere and turn it into jet fuel
Sky News was given exclusive access to the machine which will run on solar power to recover 50 tonnes of CO2 from the air per year.
Saturday 9 December 2023
Dr Steve Smith, executive director of Oxford Net Zero, noted how these projects are “really small and really expensive”, adding that there are more energy-efficient alternatives to cut down greenhouse emissions such as switching to renewables.
However, he added that scaling different technologies like direct air capture could help us get close to our climate targets.
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The scientists at Oxford Net Zero aren’t just sucking carbon down from the atmosphere, but also using that carbon to make sustainable jet fuel.
https://news.sky.com/story/uks-first-air-capture-plant-is-turned-on-to-remove-co2-from-the-atmosphere-and-turn-it-into-jet-fuel-13025531
‘different technologies like direct air capture’ — hopium never dies 🙄
‘also using that carbon to make sustainable jet fuel’ — then the jet burns the fuel and where does the ‘carbon’ go?
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Sky News was given exclusive access to the new plant and spoke with Nick Chadwick, Mission Zero Technologies CEO, who explained that the machine is able to “hoover vast volumes of air, separate selectively the CO2 that is in the atmosphere, and then reject the atmosphere back to where it came from without the CO2 in it”.
Mission Zero Technologies
London, GB
https://www.missionzero.tech/our-technology
Tell it to the growers of crops, plants, trees etc.
https://www.ledsmagazine.com/horticultural-lighting/article/14289648/worlds-largest-vertical-farm-serving-greens-from-the-desert
Nothing would make most Greens and Net Zero fanatics explode with rage more than a simple, cheap technical solution to CO2 emissions that allowed us to carry on as we do now.
From Curious George “I like “indoor vertical farms”, undoubtedly powered by an indoor Sun.”
That is a good idea, rather a variant of that. For three month of the summer the sun is too hot to grow anything at lat 35degN. An angled mirror may reduce that heat/light intensity by one third, and shine it horizontally on a vertical setup twice the ground area. land surface requirement is thus reduced. Hydroponics are simpler than tilling soil.
If they want to cool the planet down they have to increase cloud cover. The rest is a waste of time and money.
About those ‘real solutions’…
The Crippling Economic Costs of Green Energy Subsidies
By Jonathan Lesser, December 05, 2023
In total, the subsidies will far exceed what the U.S. government spent in today’s dollars to combat the Great Depression.
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Using offshore wind developers’ claimed employment impacts, the average subsidy for each green job created will be over $2 million per year. Forcing taxpayers to pay millions of dollars each year for each job created, while claiming that doing so will bolster the U.S. economy, is Alice in Wonderland economics. [bold added]
https://realclearwire.com/articles/2023/12/05/the_crippling_economic_costs_of_green_energy_subsidies_997062.html
European heat pump sales are collapsing
In the third quarter of 2022, some 565,000 heat pumps were sold in Europe. One year down the line, that figure has dropped to some 485,000 or by 14%.
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The turn away from the bloc’s future heating mainstay spells trouble for the EU’s ability to achieve its climate targets for 2030 and beyond.
One EU target may be at risk more than any other: Europe plans to install 30 million heat pumps by 2030 as part of REPowerEU – EHPA says 60 million are necessary – in order to get rid of the bloc’s dependence on Russian gas.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy-environment/news/european-heat-pump-sales-are-collapsing/
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‘Europe plans to install 30 million heat pumps by 2030’ — if they can get 30m people to buy them 🙄. That’s a hope, not a plan.