2023’s record heat partly driven by ‘mystery’ process: NASA scientist

Posted: January 14, 2024 by oldbrew in atmosphere, climate, ENSO, Natural Variation, Temperature, weather
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It’s warming, but not as they thought they knew it. ‘Everybody has lots of ideas, but it doesn’t quite add up.’ Aerosols, undersea volcano, El Niño, ‘new processes’ – the list of suspects goes on, but nothing convincing so far. Settled science has been unsettled, but persists with its usual assertions blaming humans anyway.
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It’s no secret human activity is warming the planet, driving more frequent and intense extreme weather events and transforming ecosystems at an extraordinary rate, claims Phys.org.

But the record-shattering temperatures of 2023 have nonetheless alarmed scientists, and hint at some “mysterious” new processes that may be under way, NASA’s top climatologist Gavin Schmidt tells AFP.

The following are excerpts from an interview with Schmidt:

Can you put what we saw in 2023 into perspective?
It wasn’t just a record. It was a record that broke the previous record by a record margin.

We started with La Niña, this cool phenomenon in the tropical Pacific. That was still around until March. And then in May, we started to see the development of an El Niño, the warm phase of that cycle.

It normally affects the temperatures in the following year. So that would be 2024. But what we saw in 2023 was that the temperatures globally seemed to go up with the El Niño event, in a much greater way than we’d ever seen it before.

The long term trends we understand, and it’s being driven by the greenhouse gases, it’s being driven by anthropogenic effects. We’re expecting that to continue, decade by decade, until we stop emitting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, which we haven’t done yet.

But what happened in 2023 was that, and then plus something. And that ‘plus something’ is much larger than we expect, or as yet can explain.

What are the leading hypotheses for that ‘plus something’?
There have been emails and conversations going on around the world, among the scientists who are looking at this, and people say, ‘Oh, let’s look at the Earth’s energy imbalances. Let’s look at the aerosols, let’s look at the El Niño, at what’s happening in the Antarctic, in the North Atlantic.’ And everybody has lots of ideas, but it doesn’t quite add up.

Full article here.

Comments
  1. saighdear says:

    2023’s record heat …. . Really ? I mean REALLY record heat ?
    What is heat …. Energy that is transferred from one body to another as the result of a difference in temperature So what are these “scientists babbling about? High or LOW temps I can understand if you qualify where that is and when…..
    Indeed in the N of Scotland we’ve had record (LOW) heat for most of the year… in so much as the heating was kept on all year.
    It is indeed a mystery to me and I work for North A’ Scotland Agriculturalists. WHat’s more another mystery: where is the Yellow warned Frost & Snow overnight until tonight Midnight tonight? Aye it’s Cold ( it’s winter) but at 3C with occasional wind, it is at least dry but where’s all the Windpower when you MAY want it? 9GW only this now.

  2. oldbrew says:

    Roy Spencer’s data…

    UAH Global Temperature Update for December, 2023: +0.83 deg. C
    January 3rd, 2024
    https://www.drroyspencer.com/2024/01/uah-global-temperature-update-for-december-2023-0-83-deg-c/

  3. […] 2023’s record heat partly driven by ‘mystery’ process: NASA scientist […]

  4. oldbrew says:

    Average Arctic sea ice extent for December 2023 was 12.00 million square kilometers (4.63 million square miles), ninth lowest in the 45-year satellite record (Figure 1a).

    https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2024/01/

    Ninth lowest of 45 numbers makes ‘hottest year’ claims look like hot air, even in the short satellite era. Another mystery?

    Hunga Tonga undersea volcano has so far been ruled out as a major factor, by some people at least.
    https://www.science.org/content/article/even-warmer-expected-2023-was-hottest-year-record

    Solar maximum anyone?

  5. Orde Solomons says:

    It couldn’t be due to prolonged fiddling with temperature trend data could it?

  6. It is somewhat noteworthy that “Climate Scientists” are questioning their divine intelligence about climate. Since none of the major threats of climate disasters in the last 50 years have materialized, there might just be vast, cosmic input that doesn’t fit the well-funded, human-developed research models. This blessed humility is a start.

  7. oldbrew says:

    The climateers are already finding that satellite data isn’t necessarily sound in all cases…

    Aircraft observations show northern tropical Africa is not the large source of CO2 that satellite data ‘suggested’

  8. Gavin’s heavy thumb on the scales of adjustment are a likely culprit.

  9. oldbrew says:

    Big temperature spike may lead to small temperature rise
    January 8th, 2024

    After the 1998 spike, the temperature oscillated around a constant value that was warmer than before the spike but there was no additional warming until the 2016 super El Niño spike came along. Then, after that spike it was again warmer but with no warming.
    . . .
    Here is my conclusion from six years ago: “But in no case is there any evidence of CO2 induced warming here, nor of any human-caused warming for that matter. These causes would produce a relatively steady warming over time, not the single episodic warming that we clearly see here. In particular, to my knowledge, there is no known way that the gradual CO2 increase could have caused this giant El Nino-La Nina cycle.

    “Thus, the little warming that there is in the last 40 years appears to be more or less entirely natural. In any normal science, this result would be sufficient to invalidate the hypothesis that the increasing CO2 concentration is causing global warming.”

    Nothing has changed.

    https://www.cfact.org/2024/01/08/big-temperature-spike-may-lead-to-small-temperature-rise/

  10. coecharlesdavid says:

    Spot on.

  11. oldbrew says:

    Gore effect hits Davos WEF event…

    Much the same for the weekend.

  12. saighdear says:

    But the sheeple STILL don’t get it: Like the LOGO Phrase on one of the Buildings says proudly something about the “STATE of the entire world” or wtte. What state are they alluding to?

  13. darteck says:

    “Water vapor” (W.V.).
    W.V. is the most active radiative insulator in propensity within our atmosphere, but it’s ‘short lived’ so it’s not considered to be important.??? However, W.V. is also being constantly ‘generated’.
    Yes W.V. is always being removed due it’s ‘low density’ (~three fifths of most other atmospheric gasses) and that’s why its distillation into cloud occurs at altitude, but the the percentage of the presence of W.V. throughout altitudes of our atmosphere isn’t recorded with accuracy.
    Why? W.V. is considered to be ‘unchanging’ because of its ‘short lifetime in our atmosphere’, but it ‘truly changes’!
    The inclusion of W.V. in our atmosphere changes/alters with ‘local atmospheric temperature’ due to the temperature dependency of ‘humidity’ within a region. AFAIK these/any measurement of ‘humidity’ (W.V. content) is inaccurate unless a ‘full slice’ of atmospheric altitudes can be obtained, where ‘vergil/virgil rain’ (I can’t find reference to this phenomenon where clouds rain into the atmosphere, but don’t rain to the surface) confuses not only ‘rain fall’, but atmospheric W.V. content to a ‘vertical slice/composite sample/true radiative component’ for W.V.
    Kind regards, Ray Dart (AKA suricat).

  14. Philip Mulholland says:

    @darteck
    Virga
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virga

  15. darteck says:

    Many thanks for your reference Philip!
    Kind regards, Ray Dart (AKA suricat).

  16. oldbrew says:

    Met Office doing its crystal ball gazing…

    It could be colder than normal this winter – Met Office
    The Met Office has been looking at temperatures across the globe to try and predict how long the UK can expect to be in the cold for.

    It says that when you’re trying to predict long-term weather trends here, it’s important to look at what are known as “climate drivers” globally.

    This includes things like the natural warming of the Pacific Ocean, which the Met Office says increases the likelihood that the second half of winter and early spring will be colder and drier than the first half.

    https://news.sky.com/story/uk-weather-latest-arctic-freeze-prompts-severe-snow-alert-and-days-of-weather-warnings-13048245
    [scroll down]

    They announce this in the middle of winter after about half the UK gets a snowfall.


    Caption: Snow falls on the Beatles Statue at Pier Head, Liverpool, as a “cold plunge of Arctic air” hits the UK

  17. darteck says:

    oldbrew.
    These anomalies are due to the ‘machinations’ of the ‘jet stream alteration’ and not ‘global catastrophic events’.
    However, it would be ‘colder’ throughout the UK during a ‘pre- industrial activity’ here.
    What is your point?
    Kind regards, Ray Dart (AKA suricat).

  18. oldbrew says:

    El Niño about to fade?

    PUBLISHED JANUARY 11, 2024
    El Niño is very likely close to peak strength and is likely to continue for the next few months, while gradually weakening. Despite the expected weakening of El Niño’s tropical Pacific sea surface signature, impacts to global climate will continue for the next few months. Forecasters currently expect ENSO-neutral conditions (ENSO = El Niño/Southern Oscillation, the whole El Niño & La Niña system) by the April–June period.

    https://www.climate.gov/news-features/blogs/enso/january-2024-el-nino-update-birds

  19. darteck says:

    And your point is???
    Kind regards, Ray Dart (AKA suricat).

  20. oldbrew says:

    Ray – the point is the Met Office were dishing up useless waffle while trying to sound convincing. Much like their human-caused warming assertions.
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    Any time the IPCC’s climate experts discover a *new process* as they put it, they will have to explain why it didn’t apply before. Or if it did, why they didn’t notice and how it affects their theories, or warming claims.

  21. darteck says:

    Thank you for your honesty ‘oldbrew’
    Kindest regards, Ray Dart (AKA suricat).

  22. oldbrew says:

    Record heat?

    Arctic Sea Ice Soars to Highest Level for 21 Years
    BY CHRIS MORRISON 16 JANUARY 2024

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/01/16/arctic-sea-ice-extent-soars-to-highest-level-for-21-years/

  23. Old Brew the El Nino is over. The 30 day SOI has turned positive and the the last 6 daily readings of the index have been well over + 10, indicating the likely start of a La Nina. Australia’s BOM is hopeless about forecasting weather and especially rain because the use the wrong model. Look at this site https://jennifermarohasy.com/jenns-blog/ and this article Cyclone Jasper & BOM Forecasting – Getting to the Truth’ Dr Jennifer Mahohasy has been using AI and now are others on weather. I have quite a bit of history about where I live. I wish I had some knowledge to work AI programs

  24. oldbrew says:

    Global gas demand set for 2.5% growth in 2024

    Friday 26 January 2024

    Global gas demand is anticipated to experience a 2.5% growth in 2024, equivalent to 100 billion cubic metres, according to the latest Gas Market Report from the International Energy Agency (IEA).

    The rise is attributed to colder winter weather and declining prices, fostering increased consumption in emerging economies. [bold added]

    https://www.energylivenews.com/2024/01/26/global-gas-demand-set-for-2-5-growth-in-2024/

    ‘Mystery process’ disappearing?

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