Winter Solstice: Past the darkest night to sunnier days ahead

Posted: December 21, 2011 by tallbloke in Astronomy, climate, flames, Philosophy, Politics, solar system dynamics

December 21st is an important date in the astronomical calendar,  which marks the transition from darkening days to brightening ones in the Earth’s northern hemisphere. For three days around now, the Sun stands still, rising at the same point on the horizon at the most southerly point it reaches. Then on Christmas day, the Sun rises noticeably further north and so is ‘reborn’ to start the New Year.

For my good lady and myself, it has been a dark and difficult time over this last week. We have been raided by the police, had our main means of communication with the outside world confiscated and our telephone line ripped out, hounded by the press, libeled by a Harvard PhD and a Penn State professor among others and vilified by half the climateering blogosphere. We have cried tears of fear and frustration,  endured quizzical looks from work colleagues and neighbours, lost sleep had to support worried parents and relatives.

But during the longest of nights some things have happened which I hope and believe marks the turning of the tide of darkness we were engulfed by. A non-environmental reporter from the BBC has started to take an interest in what has been going on in the climate debate. As well as being made aware of our plight, she has heard from another person who also had the temerity to send a request for information under the FOI legislation to the Climate Research Unit. He too was questioned by police without being arrested or formally dealt with. He has engaged the interest of his Member of Parliament, and questions are going to be asked.

My erstwhile Harvard PhD accuser has (after the prompting of a pre litigation letter from my solicitor Stephen Wilde) had something of a ‘Road to Damascus’ moment and moderated his tone. He has altered the original article he wrote to something which hints at a dawning realisation for the need for real, open and respectful debate about the content of the climategate emails. Perhaps further on, we will be able to debate such matters as energy policy and taxation which affects the fuel poor, such as pensioners, and low income workers.

The BBC reporter (you’ll know her name soon enough) said to me on the phone last night that  the possibility is disturbing that ordinary upstanding citizens such as us should be targeted for our perfectly legally held and expressed views concerning climate science, and climate and energy policy. It is not only the climate debate which needs opening  up to the public through the media, but there are also important principles of freedom of expression and freedom from the abuse of arbitrary power which need to be re-affirmed and fostered. Today I will have an opportunity to start that process, and I’m humbled and honoured to be the ‘man of the moment’.  In the centre of the cyclone, surrounded by the whirling forces of movements with their agendas, policy agendas, international political pressure and internal domestic politics. In this maelstrom of conflicting and competing forces the point of calm I regard as my rock is the scientific method.

Scientific truth cares not for agendas, not even good ones. My fear has always been that should the science of ‘man made global warming’ turn out to be wrong or badly over-hyped, the environmental movement I used to hold dear will be set back by decades in the backlash. I’ve seen it hijacked by a range of forces with agendas which conflict with my own view of what looking after our environment should entail. I love the open countryside, and have been walking and camping since I was a child. I grew up to become a qualified engineer, and understand the principles of power generation and distribution, and peoples need for warm homes to keep them in health. I did a degree in the History and Philosophy of science, and learned how  to assess scientific theories and the way the people who define them are embedded into the society which finances their work through funding agencies which in turn are paid or partly financed through government agencies. It is complex, but the scientific method’s simple formula will allow us to find what is real and accept the truth no matter where the chips fall, if only we are faithful to it.

The ‘Reconciliation in the Climate Debate’ workshop I attended in Lisbon as an invited independent researcher at the start of last year was a small beginning, among others. We need an open, respectful, honest and realistic public debate about urgent and important issues which affect us all. If half of the people who want to engage are frozen out of the process, it is a sham and a delusion, and it will lead to lopsided and unrealistic results.

We will not allow this to happen.

Comments
  1. Brian H says:

    Edit note:
    “the astronimical calendar,” or
    astronomical, even.
    😉
    ______
    Hadn’t noticed the “phone line ripped out” detail before. When and how did that occur? Didn’t sound like any part of the raid/visitation.

    Your hopes that we are moving towards honest debate and balanced science are perhaps unrealistic, because of the twin problems of persuading those with a death grip on the funding and investment spigots to share nicely, and the huge mental/emotional overcommitment of those espousing the core save-the-world-from-evil-emissions POV. It is very instructive to note the frequent fall-back position taken that even if CO2 demonization is wrong, the global global-mitigation-through-de-development process will make the world better and nicer anyway.

    By Spring Solstice I predict more light and heat.

  2. Otter says:

    Merry Christmas, Tallbloke.

    Here’s hoping the week’s events opened a major crack in their defenses.
    ‘it is always darkest just before the Dawn.’

  3. tallbloke says:

    Hey Brian, at least give a man time to reproof his own post before going medieval on his spelling! 😉

    I know there are huge hurdles in our path, but I feel we are at the turning point now.

    Your climate (debate) prediction is a safe bet I would have thought though we don’t have solstices in spring but instead equinoxes. Heh, gotcha. 8)
    .

    The ripped out phone line was a piece of clumsiness (being charitable about it) on the part of the computer expert from the MET, who seems to think ADSL routers retain ‘logs’ after they’ve been unplugged, and therefore need to be seized. Maybe he’s right, and our telcos and ISP’s are doing things they are not telling us about?

  4. Do you think the BBC reporter will actually be allowed to investigate honestly and openly?

    The fact that the raid was a midnight is a clear indication of intimidation tactics, it is not that you were about to set off some device or other and had to be stopped immediately. I am sure an 7 am approach would have perfectly adequate for their purposes, if simply collecting “evidence” was what the “visit” was all about.

    You and yours are in the thoughts of many of us at this time.

    The French philosopher, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin may, or may not, have said (there is some dispute) “The world belongs to those who offer it hope.”
    So, may the hope embodied in the Christmas story inspire you and yours this Christmas season and throughout the year ahead.

    [Factual correction] the police came around 6.40pm and left around 10pm. thanks for your support – Rog

  5. Harriet Harridan says:

    You are, undoubtedly and irrefutably, “the man”, and so, by definition, you know what you’re doing. However: Don’t trust the BBC. Don’t trust the BBC. Don’t trust the BBC. Don’t trust the BBC. Don’t trust the BBC.

    Even if the female in question is genuinely sympathetic to your view, by the time her Lords and Masters have finished “Improving” her story, you will sound like a mix of Mad Frankie Frazier, and Pol Pot.

    That is all.

  6. Barry Woods says:

    It’s a small world!! (I remember the Hammond air ambulance appeal)
    http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?h=0&memberId=990&t=965368&f=205&mid=990

    Whilst it’s good to here that the BBC are taking a seemingly sensible interest.
    Please be careful, make your own audio/video recording of any ‘intervew’

    I on;y suggest this, because of the way James Delingpole was stitched up by the BBC/Horizon programme and Sir Paul Nurse..

    Did you see the letter the BBC wrote to James inviting him to participate!! I interviewed James for WUWT and he gave me the letter from the BBC which is reproduced in full at Watts Up With That,

    Has the BBC broken faith with the General Public?

    I feel they totaly misrepresented what they were going to do, to get him to participate..
    Trust is the issue here.

    The funnyist thing for me, is that I found out about the climategate 2 files, because the Guardian’s Leo Hickman tweeted the news!

    some very good advice for dealing with the media here in the comments?

    Has the BBC broken faith with the General Public?

  7. Peter Whale says:

    Hi Tallbloke it was with righteous indignation and an early Christmas present to myself that I donated to your fund. I am impressed by your fortitude and demeanour and know that you will use that fund with integrity and purpose.
    The new year should be a time of pushing forward for the integrity of science, where you have shown the way. If more funds are needed for that? I will be more than willing to give myself another gift.
    So glad and happy it is working out well for you and your family.

  8. Barry Sheridan says:

    One hopes that 2012 will see a greater openess in this debate, it is very necessary to draw a line under the institution of ruinous public policies. Thanks for your contribution to this trend ‘Tallbloke.’ May you and all your family rest easy over Christmas and find less hassle in the coming year.

  9. TimC says:

    Well made point – out of little acorns, perhaps? Here’s hoping.

    Have a joyful Christmas – I don’t think even the old bill would now have the gall to interrupt proceedings again at Tallbloke Towers. (BTW, hope you find out the name of the DI who laid the information leading to issue of the warrant – and then who instructed him/her to do this!)

    BTW – winter solstice 2011 is actually at 5.30 UTC on 22nd Dec this year (just so the Druids are aware!):

    http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/december-solstice.html

  10. 40 shades says:

    Keep the faith. Nice to see that, like myself, you are a true environmentalist. One of those 40 shades of green as it were.

    40 Shades

  11. TerryS says:

    I was questioned by Norfolk police (via telephone) on 23rd November 2009, just 16 days after the initial release.
    At that point I had not sent any FOIA requests to anybody about anything.
    According to the officer I talked to the reason I was questioned was because I sent an enquiry to both the Norfolk Police and the UEA requesting technical details about the “hack”. I wanted to know things like the OS, the services that were running on the server, its primary function within UEA, if it was publicly accessible etc.
    Having an enquiring mind apparently makes you a suspect and worthy of police attention.

  12. Abiogenesis says:

    Very best wishes for a happy new year.

  13. Not much consolation, I know, but you are definitely going to get a mention in the History of Science now. The text books won’t be written for another five years or so, but sure as eggs, this is a moment when, looking back, the authorities more or less confirmed the thrust of the leaked emails.

    It’s stupid of them. If there is one thing guaranteed to make their case, it is arresting the critics. You don’t need a degree in anything to have seen that one coming.

  14. Anthea Collins says:

    Solstice is on 22nd December this year, I believe.

  15. Andrew says:

    Not so fast. Solstice comes on 22 December this year, at 0530 am.

    [Reply] There I go, jumping the gun again. 🙂 – Rog

  16. GeorgeL says:

    Dear Tallbloke,

    it seems almost too good to be true that your discomfort over the past week or so will be the catalyst for change. Let’s hope it is and that we can move to a place where debate is open, people are respected for taking well thought out and well argued positions, and where there is transparency.

    You are to be admired for your even-handed and calm approach to this trampling of your rights.

    Have a great new year

  17. Tenuc says:

    There are privacy issues with ADSL routers, most of which have a small amount of non-volatile memory to store log files, system settings like passwords, MAC addresses etc. With this info it is possible do several things. Can find out which computers were connected via the router. It is possible to trace your internet use when using mobile devices and to know the time/where you were when using said devices. It is also easier to set up an anonymous monitoring system of internet use for future surveillance if you have this info, providing you continue to use your current ISP.

    To improve future privacy I suggest changing your ISP, replacing all computer equipment with new and using an anonymous 3G dongle for mobile web access. If your new kit is running Win 7, stop shadow copying by turning off System Restore. Also turn off windows logging and use a good log removal tool before you shut down. When your PCs are returned, transfer copies of vital files to removable media before destroying the equipment and have them checked for malware by a professional service (I’ve heard ATS of Sidcup are good). For ultimate security, run Win 7 on a VM and store all data files on removal media – 64 gb Micro SDXC cards are convenient for this.

    .Finally an ‘edit’ note – I believe the Winter Solstice 2011 is on Thursday December 22 @ 05:30 GMT.

  18. Dart says:

    May the BBC be warned to report this one accurately and without bias.

    If the need arises lets us know if funds are required.

    Stand tall, bloke.

  19. NeilM says:

    I don’t think the BBC can be trusted, they will put their own stamp on your story TallBloke and paint you as some kind of eccentric amateur who owns too many computers. (Just saying)

    The BBC are in full-on propaganda mode – I hear it almost every day on Radio4 and I don’t believe anyone there is capable of reporting rationally on climate related issues.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I fear the BBC’s spin will go something like this – ‘bless him, we know he’s got it wrong about climate change, but in an open society surely we can let climate deniers speak without fear of state repression…’

  20. Barry Woods says:

    oops .. I’ve got a comment stuck in your spam filter, 3 url’s probably caused it.

  21. tallbloke says:

    Thanks Tenuc, noted I guess that means the longest night is tonight then. Let’s hope this mornings upbeat news isn’t a ‘false dawn’ in the climate debate.

  22. PhilJourdan says:

    Ouch on the Phone line! I used to have SDSL, and it was cool (but that was my first broadband many moons ago). Now, after experimenting with cable (whose performance was decent, but support was abysmal), I have FIOS. Do you chaps in Merry Olde England have FIOS available? I sweat by it!

    Congrats on beating back the darkness and the idiots who would condemn us to an eternity of it!

  23. Don keiller says:

    I see that Mr. Laden is backpedalling as hard as he can on his “blog”.

    http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/12/computers_of_criminal_cyber-th.php

    This is not a genuine change of heart, more an undignified scramble to avoid legal action.

    Lots of people have donated precisely because they want to see Mr. Laden face legal action for Libel and a line drawn under what is acceptable and what is not.

    I do hope that Tallbloke will not be diverted from pursuing his legal action.

  24. Josualdo says:

    Everybody beat me at using the light after darkness metaphor… Anyway, a good light to you.

  25. Harry Trent says:

    Well said, Tallbloke. I can’t imagine the pressures you’ve been under, but to emerge from it with such grace is a sign of your strength and integrity.

    Keep up the great work!

  26. Joe's World says:

    TB,

    I will predict that 2012 will be the change of science.
    Too many people are involved in finding many errors.

    The ignore and hope they go away policy just infuriates researchers to dig deeper.
    The one question I will be pushing in the collapse of our current scientists is “How did they come up with that single calculation to put on graphs?”
    That single calculation path is by averaging which then changes an orb into a cylinder when redistributed back to the planet. This then changes all of science to follow bad theories while eliminating parameters that constitute an orb.
    Many parameters are not included in temperature data calculations as they are not temperatures themselves but only drivers for the creation of stable temperatures and circulation.

    2012, Joe will be will be making scientists accountable for their research and not the current “You are the expert” because we failed to understand what you were doing.
    This debating what is right and wrong and uncertain has only wasted vast amounts of time in positions that changed little or not at all.

  27. It is not only the climate debate which needs opening up to the public through the media, but there are also important principles of freedom of expression and freedom from the abuse of arbitrary power which need to be re-affirmed and fostered. Today I will have an opportunity to start that process, and I’m humbled and honoured to be the ‘man of the moment’.

    Stirring stuff. Indeed, keep stirring 🙂

  28. Doctor K says:

    Here’s hoping you are presented with your own Josh T-Shirt soon enough, Tallbloke!
    To all bloggers trying to hold the maintream scientists to the scientific process…Keep up the good work your efforts are appreciated more than you realize.

  29. adolfogiurfa says:

    Dear Rog: As you know: After the darkest night the Sun rises again. The problem with “democracy” is that it empower those who are the less fitted. Obviously you are suffering the fact we have always heard of the world being “up side down”.
    So, in a time when we are about to witness a new Sun, a new beginning of an eternal cycle, those unfitted ones, unconsciously recognizing an undefined menace from everywhere, and fearing to lose their privileges they attack those who they think will reveal their nullity.
    Perhaps in the last centuries we have been deceived, plainly cheated, taught many lies presented as “dogmas”, be it regarding social issues, religious issues or scientific issues, beginning with the fallacy of the separation of these same issues.
    In an almost mythological ancient era, human societies were presided by the wisest, those whose necessary guidance was recognized by everyone. Then, I asked myself, after 70 years of living on this planet, what is it a noble man?. As such a man would embody all what is harmonic and lawful, as being a wise man by definition, he would know and recognize the laws and principles ruling the universe. Then, where to find such a race of men?, where to find such a noble man or men?. What would it be their main virtue?.
    I arrived at the conclusion that it would be the impossibility to betray principles and the eagerness to fight for its prevalence , and such an impossibility would be like if anyone of us should have to deny that 2+2 equals 4.
    Evidently those who do not know this simple addition can and do accept anything, and much worse if they are retributed for that.
    The surprising fact is that noble men and women are not found where they were supposed but among the humblest: Those who are supposed to be the rulers are the servants and those suppose to serve are found occupying undeserved positions. However it is also evident that those who improperly keep holding the reins of power, being unfitted, must have some masters thinkers behind to lead them.
    There is an AGENDA to follow for them, of course!, and if they do it well, they will keep and improve their positions: The UN´s AGENDA 21.
    But, as the Sun approaches the Solstice and a new Sun will rise, the end draws near for those who came from the dark….
    Perhaps, they have only one year left, if Mayans were right… 🙂

  30. Stacey says:

    The following did the rounds in Czecho I believe a few years ago before liberation.

    If you think, don’t say.

    If you say, don’t write.

    If you write, don’t sign.

    If you sign, don’t be surprised.

    I apologise for trying to advise you in your dealing with the police, it is clear you were up to speed already.

    When you are innocent you have no reason to fear and more so today where nearly every part of the world is connected to the internet.

    It is so surprising to me the two faced response of The Guardian in this matter but hey the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

  31. First they came for a Yorkshireman’s computers and I said nothing………..

    God Bless and God speed in getting your life back to normal. Nothing like a little government repression around the time of Christ’s nativity to remind us who owns the spoon.

  32. K Scott Denison says:

    TB, I have followed the climate debate since right before the ClimateGate 1 emails were released and continue to be appalled by the tactics of the pro-CAGW group and the media. I wouldn’t wish what you’re going through on anyone but I am pleased to see you appear to be coping well and are taking all the right actions. I have just donated to the legal fund as I suspect you will still be needing the services of Stephen and his firm.

    Best of luck to you and know that you have many supporters who (at least figuratively) “have your back” as you fight this battle. And should you need support in the US as this saga unfolds, there are many of us over here who will help in any way we can.

    Hope you and “your lady” enjoy a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    Cheers,

    KSD

  33. Michael Hart says:

    “The ripped out phone line was a piece of clumsiness (being charitable about it) on the part of the computer expert from the MET….”
    Wow! You’ve been raided by the meteorologists too?!
    🙂
    Only kidding. When/if the BBC come round, perhaps you might ask about their quest for a new science editor. That story seems to have gone quiet since the report by Steve Jones to the BBC Trust.

  34. FM says:

    Surely, there is no better proof for the Gospel of St. Suzuki and Archbishop Al that the Warming is upon us! A green Christmas, above zero temperatures, rain, no snow at the 43rd parallel near Lake Erie. St. Suzuki is running ads scaring children about the melting ice cap that is making Sanata move away (no mention of the word, Christmas, tho)… Ho, ho, ho.

  35. […] Winter Solstice: Past the darkest night to sunnier days ahead « tallbloke's talkshop […]

  36. Patrick Moffitt says:

    History has seen all these tactics before in the late 19th century “wars” between supporters of Agassiz and Darwin. A wonderful book on the subject by David Dobbs “Reef Madness” describes the impact of these wars on Agassiz’s son, Alexander who “viewed skeptically the more strident expressions of Darwinism and creationism because he had seen the madness made when scientists took theory as dogma.” Good advise for us all.
    I hope you and your have a wonderful Holiday and find comfort in the fact that your wealth of friends extends beyond your knowing.

  37. henryp says:

    hey. I am with you, all the way. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers. I hope things will finally work out for us.

    http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/henrys-pool-table-on-global-warming

    henryp

  38. […] Tallbloke reflects on the solstice and says that questions are starting to be asked in the […]

  39. tallbloke says:

    Thank you everyone for your warm words of support. I’m needing it right now. It looks like the police have messed up trying to copy the drives from the lappys. The computer team have told the Guy I spoke to that they think they are all encrypted.

    They are not. They have NTFS and EXT3 and linux swap partitions.

  40. Andrew says:

    tallbloke says:
    December 21, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    Thank you everyone for your warm words of support. I’m needing it right now.

    OK, then…how about a quote from one of your compatriots…

    “The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is”. – Winston Churchill

    Andrew

  41. PhilJourdan says:

    Althea and Andrew – the Solstice depends upon where you are. For California, the solstice comes at 9:30pm on the 21st. Maybe Tallbloke is vacationing with the movie starlets? 😉

    [Reply] I wish. 😉

  42. Robert M says:

    Happy Solstice and Merry Christmas Tallbloke and Family…

    After reading your post about the reporter from the BBC that appears to be sympathetic to your plight. One thought is screaming in my brain. Do NOT trust her! The BBC has not been an impartial bystander in this, and I seriously doubt they are planning on an unbiased report on your plight. Protect yourself as best you can when dealing with those folks. I recommend you and your solicitor tape the conversation and, if anything is published, we can examine what the BBC wrote, and transcripts of the “interview” as it were…

  43. […] another blog post Tallbloke describes the past few days: For my good lady and myself, it has been a dark and […]

  44. Zeke says:

    “My erstwhile Harvard PhD accuser[link]”

    As they say, “A curse that is not deserved will not alight.” The comments are going extremely badly on Greg Laden’s article about “foia” and tallbloke’s computers being taken.

  45. Miket says:

    Tallbloke,

    As others have cautioned, do be careful with anyone from the BBC. If you have read the climate science section of Professor Jones’ “Impartiality” review, you will realise that they are still trying to keep the hatches battened down. I know because I’ve just experienced it personally. Having pursued a general bias complaint over the reporting of climate science for three years, the Editorial Standard Committee have dismissed my appeal – See the Trust bulletin published today

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/appeals/esc_bulletins/2011/oct_nov.pdfs

    It is quite clear that they had no intention of being drawn on the substance of the complaint.

  46. Aussie says:

    Hi TB,

    greetings from Australia, on the longest day of the year!!!! I wish you and your lady a very Merry Christmas.

    As a non-technical person, can I just say that I feel alarm over the claim that your laptop drives are encrypted. My little sensors tell me that they could use this as an excuse to claim some untrue things.

  47. colliemum says:

    Next to abuse of the scientific method, the abuse of our care for our environment for the sake of AGW is surely one of the truly despicable things done by those AGW proponents.

    But, as the sun rises ever higher after the solstice, so truth will out, and your dark days, undeserved, will become light again. There are far too many of us out here to let what was done to you and your family sink beneath the next wave of news.

    Don’t want to gush here, but I reckon you deserve a reward for being a true citizen-hero.

  48. Robert M says:

    The article is out… I was happily surprised.

    I love happy surprises. 🙂

    [Reply] I’m a pretty good judge of character and Nikki came across to me well. – Rog

  49. Brian H says:

    Upp, gotme! ;( Heh.
    Yeah, it’s funny how reproofing is easiest after you push the Send button, isn’t it? I suspect a neurological explanation would be fascinating.

    And I expect a fair amount more blood on the grass before the battle ends.

  50. tallbloke says:

    The BBC online article is up and the TV piece has been broadcast

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-16294420

  51. P.G. Sharrow says:

    @tallbloke says:
    December 21, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    ” It looks like the police have messed up trying to copy the drives from the lappys. The computer team have told the Guy I spoke to that they think they are all encrypted.

    They are not. They have NTFS and EXT3 and linux swap partitions.”

    Liers!! they are stalling for more time to mess with the computers and router. I would “seal” them for defense evidence and private examination for tampering. A digital mirror should take a short time. Take care my friend. pg

  52. manicbeancounter says:

    Thank you Tallbloke for this lovely piece. If anything good comes out of your ordeals of the past few days I hope it is that some people start to look at both sides of the argument. Like in any legal case, it is only by hearing both sides that you can have any hope of seeing whether the climate change case is substantiated. It is only the upside down world of climate science, where opinions and PR come before direct evidence and careful data analysis that we have the current situation.

  53. Verity Jones says:

    Tallbloke, you do write very well. This piece was a joy to read for many reasons!

  54. Steve says:

    TB,
    In every social and scientific maelstrom such as ‘climate science’ in its present state, there emerges a catalyst around which the storm is slowly settled. Oft times that catalyst is an unassuming person who sees himself as being on the periphery of the storm but who suddenly finds himself flung into the turbulent eye through no action of his own.
    The depositing of the link to the FOIA2011.zip file onto your blog was nothing to do with you. But you were chosen. Why? Probably because of your reputation as a solidly dependable and honest man. This subsequent Police action has served to drive home to everyone that true scientific endeavour has been totally subverted and that any questioning of this subversion now has official bad consequences.
    That is the fatal step too far for the advocates of the CAGW ‘theory’.
    It is unfortunate that you have become, albeit unwittingly, the catalyst in this storm; however you are aware of the international support which you have. You are now the rallying point for all who question the supposedly ‘settled science’ about our planet’s climate. That so many around the world now know about you and are actively supporting you should strengthen your resolve. Your responses so far have been measured and appropriate which is the direct opposite of what we could expect from the CAGW proponents.
    All we, your supporters, can do is to cheer from the side-lines for you. Rest assured that the crowd numbers many thousands!
    To you and your partner, a very happy Christmas and, I am sure, a very, very great New Year; always remember, although we might not be there with you, you are not alone.

  55. DirkH says:

    “The BBC reporter (you’ll know her name soon enough) said to me on the phone last night that the possibility is disturbing that ordinary upstanding citizens such as us […]”

    a) Don’t trust her. Orwell wrote 1984 while at the BBC.
    b) She’s probably in the re-education camp already anyway.

  56. DirkH says:

    Oh. I see the BBC article is up. For now it looks good. I think it will mutate over the next 24 hours.

  57. Zeke says:

    The article went well. I would say such unbiased coverage of a skeptic in the press, esp the bbc from what I gather, is not bad for a days’ work. Or even a year’s work (: At any rate it is some accomplishment.

    Although, the article does cast the actual extraction of tallbloke’s computers from his private property as a bumbling, Scotland Yard type of event from a Sir Arthur Conan Doyle story. I do not think that is the case, as there is international interest in finding foia.

  58. Jimmy Haigh says:

    Tallbloke.

    All the best for Xmas and the New Year to you and yours.

  59. Zeke says:

    Tallbloke, I thought you might be complimented by my son’s site. We thought you were planning to change to “.info”. Merry Christmas.

    It looks like he beat you to the Nikola Tesla post you were going to write.

    The Wardenclyffe Tower

  60. David B says:

    I left the following comment on Bishop Hill and it probably applies more to Tallbloke’s issue………

    How long do you think it will take before Mann et.al. begin to use the proposed law summarized below, if passed by our US Congress, to begin to take down websites ‘offending’ the climate orthodoxy?…………

    ‘The legislation that campaigns across the country should be concerned about is the Stop Online Piracy Act. The overarching goal of SOPA is a good one: Take aggressive steps to curb online copyright infringement. The problem is that the bill would create heavy-handed regulations that would blacklist legitimate websites without adequately addressing online piracy.’

    http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_74/stephen_demaura_david_segal_candidates_concerned_stop_online_piracy_act-211023-1.html

  61. […] his part, Tallbloke (Roger Tattersall) now says that despite ‘tears of fear and frustration,’ and being vilified and harassed, he […]

  62. P.G. Sharrow says:

    @ Zeke, Taylor just barely scratched the surface of “Tesla”. I just spent 2 hours answering questions about electricity and Tesla for a friend that was interested in the Wardenclyffe and after he left with some of my books by Tesla, I see your comment. 😎 pg

  63. Zeke says:

    @PG, Well that was good timing (: It is probably a sign that you are supposed to write a post about Wardenclyffe Tower. And that tallbloke is supposed to put Thomas Edison in his Hall of Shame.

  64. malcolm says:

    The computer team have told the Guy I spoke to that they think they are all encrypted. They are not. They have NTFS and EXT3 and linux swap partitions.

    Oh dear. They know how to click on the icon for a Windows-only forensics tool, but are baffled by non-Windows file systems. Have they tried turning it off and on again?

    Just so long as you don’t get threatened with prison for not revealing the passwords…

  65. Richards in Vancouver says:

    The police should have handed your computers over to real experts: the actors from “The IT Crowd”.
    Or even better, call in their own teen-age sons (if they have any).
    Encrypted! Pfui!

  66. FM says:

    When the reaction to a dissenting opinion is this strong (police, anathemas, etc), that’s proof that the dogma is wrong, or at least, flawed. Reminds me of the “wars” that characterize medical history…

  67. J Martin says:

    They should have seen the laptops working before they took them.
    The laptops should have been shut down and then logged onto in front of them or by them before they took them away.

    If so then they cannot subsequently claim that they are encrypted.
    If they failed to do the above then they have been negligent and cannot subsequently claim that they have been encrypted.

    Perhaps the police IT bloke who took them away has encrypted them rather than examine them.

  68. P.G. Sharrow says:

    If you have windoz and linox on the same disk and don’t know what you are doing you can corrupt the whole thing. Auto encryption before you know it! 😎 Of course all data is lost. Man that really sucks. I have crapped up a hard drive a couple of times while trying to run both in separate partitions. Microsoft really hates Linox. pg

  69. Tenuc says:

    P.G. Sharrow says:
    December 22, 2011 at 11:52 pm
    “If you have windoz and linox on the same disk and don’t know what you are doing you can corrupt the whole thing. Auto encryption before you know it! 😎 Of course all data is lost. Man that really sucks. I have crapped up a hard drive a couple of times while trying to run both in separate partitions. Microsoft really hates Linox. pg”

    Same here PG, while running Ubuntu Linux and Win XP on the same box I did the stupidest thing by trying to do a ‘hot’ repartitioning of the disc using Ranish – crap-out is the only word to describe the subsequent mess and I only managed to retrieve about 15mb of data off an almost full 500gb disc. Never again!

    However, the police should just have been making a ghost copy of the complete drive – not even booting the suspect machine – so I don’t know what’s been going on, unless they are trying to use the PC to spoof TB’s identity??? Perhaps claiming that the drive is encrypted is just a stalling for time tactic. Be nice to know what’s really going on!

  70. My nominally-portable computers all have encrypted filesystems for commercially-sensitive, proprietary and personal information. They are protected by pass-phrases and not mounted until I need them.

    On the desktops and servers, there are encrypted filesystems within the normal filesystems. Some of them are quite small; easily mistaken for ordinary, binary files. Again, pass-phrase protected (each has a different one) and only mounted while needed.

    The only down-side with that strategy is that I have difficulty remembering the correct pass-phrase when under stress. Reminiscent of my horror daze in Uni. exams.

  71. The good thing about seasons is that you can frighten people into thinking that there’ll never be night/day ever again. All you have to do is wait until spring/autumn when the length of day is changing noticeably and then extrapolate lineraly; estimating how much long it’ll be before irreversible night/day.

    We’re all familiar with that sort of thing, aren’t we?;-)

    Merry Christmas to all.

  72. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Tenuc says:
    December 23, 2011 at 12:19 am
    “However, the police should just have been making a ghost copy of the complete drive – not even booting the suspect machine – so I don’t know what’s been going on, unless they are trying to use the PC to spoof TB’s identity??? Perhaps claiming that the drive is encrypted is just a stalling for time tactic. Be nice to know what’s really going on”

    The same thought occurred to me yesterday! Router and lap top= great Trojan horse.
    Or spoof internet use record. pg

  73. JohnM says:

    I don’t know about your adsl modem, but mine has an internal activity log……

  74. JohnM says:

    Having just run-through the modem it is probable they are more interested in the list of DHCP “servers”………listing devices routed through the modem

  75. Brian H says:

    Tenuc says:
    December 23, 2011 at 12:19 am

    Same here PG, while running Ubuntu Linux and Win XP on the same box I did the stupidest thing by trying to do a ‘hot’ repartitioning of the disc using Ranish – crap-out is the only word to describe the subsequent mess and I only managed to retrieve about 15mb of data off an almost full 500gb disc. Never again!

    For a much better tool, check out MiniTool’s Partition Wizard (partitionwizard.com).