Heathrow or Gatwick: Runway decision tomorrow 

Posted: October 24, 2016 by oldbrew in government, Travel

Heathrow expects... [credit: your.heathrow.com]

Heathrow expects… [credit: your.heathrow.com]

One thing’s for sure – they won’t be adopting the Guardian’s solution of no more runways ever. When one battle ends another will start, as ITV News reports.

The Government will tomorrow make a decision on where a new runway for the south should be built and Heathrow is expected to be the winner.

But it is expected that Gatwick could also be allowed to expand at a later date. The decision will then be subject to consultation ahead of a vote by MP’s in early 2018.

The decision will bring to an end a debate going back fifty years and with it new rows. Whichever airport is selected is likely to lead to campaigners going to court to try to stop the plan.

At both airports views are divided. Those who support the plans say they will create tens of thousands of jobs and boost the economy, particularly post-Brexit, when we need to be connected to all parts of the world. Campaigners against say there will be hundreds of thousands more flights with extra noise and emissions.

Airlines will welcome the news but say it should not be at the cost of increased airport fees to pay for it. IAG, the owner of British Airways, say an extra £40 could be added to a return fare by the expansion at Heathrow, which will cost £17.6 billion.

The decision is the start of the planning process and not the beginning of the diggers. Consultation, planning inquiries and court reviews mean the earliest the new runway could open is 2025.

And the plan at Heathrow means putting the M25 in a tunnel so the new runway can run over it. That will be a challenge. At Gatwick 200 properties will need to be demolished. At Heathrow it is nearer 800. A property compensation scheme will give those affected the opportunity to sell at above the market rate.

With airport capacity fast running out a decision is at last being made. But history has shown it has been difficult. In 2009 a third Heathrow runway was approved by the Labour Government. The Conservatives who won the next election set up the Airports Commision to review it.

They came up with two options at Heathrow – a new runway and extending an existing one – or a new runway at Gatwick.

Tomorrow will see the latest twist in the debate and the start of a major new battle.

Full report: Heathrow or Gatwick: Runway decision tomorrow | Meridian – ITV News

  1. oldbrew says:

    Real world:
    IATA projected (26-Nov-2015) the following five fastest growing markets between 2015 and 2034, based on additional passengers p/a:

    China: 758 million new passengers for the period, for a total of 1.196 billion. China is expected to overtake the US as the world’s largest passenger market (defined by traffic to, from and within) by 2029. In 2034 China will account for some 1.19 billion passengers, with an average annual growth rate of 5.2%;
    US: 523 million new passengers for a total of 1.156 billion. The US is expected to grow at an average annual growth rate of 3.1%;
    India: 275 million new passengers for a total of 378 million. Traffic to, from and within the India will displace the UK as the third-largest market in 2026;
    Indonesia: 132 million new passengers for a total of 219 million. Indonesia expected to become the fifth largest travel market in the world by 2034;
    Brazil: 104 million new passengers for a total of 202 million. Brazil will move from the 10th largest to the seventh largest travel market.


    Guardian world: no more runways, ever. Except for flying pigs perhaps.

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  3. craigm350 says:

    OB – if they don’t build more runways how do the Guardian expect all the freeloaders to attend all the (at taxpayer’s expense) climate shindigs we need to save the planet? 😉

  4. oldbrew says:

    Craig – hot air balloon might do it. Plenty of that in the G’s climate columns.

  5. oldbrew says:

    BBC: Heathrow airport expansion ‘approved’

    Transport Secretary Chris Grayling will make a statement to the House of Commons about 1230pm on Tuesday, but the decision faces a long consultation before it becomes final.

    BBC reporter Norman Smith, at Downing Street, also says Heathrow has been given the green light.

    He says he has spoken to someone who attended this morning’s cabinet sub-committee meeting and that Theresa May will now be informing the full cabinet.

    “Interestingly Boris Johnson avoided us this morning,” Mr Smith says. “Normally he goes in the front door at number 10 but today he did not… I suspect because he didn’t want to answer too many questions about lying down in front of bulldozers any time soon.”

    If they send in 10 bulldozers which one does Boris lie in front of?

  6. oldbrew says:

    Summary – from the BBC.

    Third runway at Heathrow airport approved by ministers

    Grayling: Heathrow expansion ‘best option’ for UK
    Boris Johnson: Runway is ‘undeliverable’
    Sadiq Khan: Heathrow plan ‘devastating’ for air quality
    Zac Goldsmith meeting constituents later


  7. oldbrew says:

    New Heathrow runway may be built on ramp over M25

    Chris Grayling said this would be “cheaper and quicker” than building a tunnel for the M25 under the new runway and would cause less disruption for drivers.

    A bit like Manchester’s second runway…

  8. Tenuk says:

    Too little too late. Boris Island in the Thames would have been the way to go. You can bank on Ms May to make the wrong decision, she always does.

  9. E.M.Smith says:

    But, but but… since they are committed to no carbon fuels, why will they need runways (as all present large commercial planes use kerosene and the little ones use gasoline…). there isn’t enough land to grow bio- jet fuel…